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Old February 21st 05, 09:49 AM
arketipp
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It was not the TSA's finest hour but at least they followed their own
rules -- according to the TSA. A woman was barred from a Mesa Airlines
flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Thursday after she allegedly told a
screener that the TSA "couldn't find a bomb [in her bag] if there was
one." While the woman was detained, the bag was put on the flight, where
it traveled uneventfully to San Diego -- uneventfully, that is, until
arrival. At Lindbergh field, the plane was evacuated, the passengers and
crew were delayed for debriefing and the (previously cleared) luggage
was extricated from the aircraft and blown up (not of its own accord).
It was all by the book, according to the TSA's Nico Melendez. "If a bag
is cleared by TSA, is it OK, under current regulations, to fly without
the passenger on the plane." "... All procedures were followed in this
case," he said in an e-mail to the Arizona Republic. The passenger, a
New Jersey psychiatrist, was questioned (and later released, taking a
later flight) as the bag made its way to San Diego, where the plane
taxied to an isolated area of the airport and passengers were ordered
off without their coats and carry-ons while authorities found Koshnu's
luggage and blew it up. ... How was your day?


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Old February 21st 05, 11:28 AM
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"arketipp" wrote in message
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It was not the TSA's finest hour but at least they followed their own
rules -- according to the TSA. A woman was barred from a Mesa Airlines
flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Thursday after she allegedly told a
screener that the TSA "couldn't find a bomb [in her bag] if there was
one." While the woman was detained, the bag was put on the flight, where
it traveled uneventfully to San Diego -- uneventfully, that is, until
arrival.


Incredible. Does anyone in the TSA have a brain?
--
Jim in NC


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Old February 21st 05, 12:24 PM
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Almost enough to make you think Alex Jones and his Patriot Media blitz
are on to something.

http://www.infowars.com/alexjones.html
http://www.patriot-media.net/

Now to define "almost" for the record ...


Morgans wrote:
"arketipp" wrote in message
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It was not the TSA's finest hour but at least they followed their own
rules -- according to the TSA. A woman was barred from a Mesa Airlines
flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Thursday after she allegedly told a
screener that the TSA "couldn't find a bomb [in her bag] if there was
one." While the woman was detained, the bag was put on the flight, where
it traveled uneventfully to San Diego -- uneventfully, that is, until
arrival.



Incredible. Does anyone in the TSA have a brain?

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Old February 21st 05, 12:30 PM
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I don't know about you guys but I feel safer.

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Old February 21st 05, 01:49 PM
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"arketipp" wrote in message ...
It was not the TSA's finest hour but at least they followed their own
rules -- according to the TSA. A woman was barred from a Mesa Airlines
flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Thursday after she allegedly told a
screener that the TSA "couldn't find a bomb [in her bag] if there was
one." While the woman was detained, the bag was put on the flight, where
it traveled uneventfully to San Diego -- uneventfully, that is, until
arrival. At Lindbergh field, the plane was evacuated, the passengers and
crew were delayed for debriefing and the (previously cleared) luggage
was extricated from the aircraft and blown up (not of its own accord).
It was all by the book, according to the TSA's Nico Melendez. "If a bag
is cleared by TSA, is it OK, under current regulations, to fly without
the passenger on the plane." "... All procedures were followed in this
case," he said in an e-mail to the Arizona Republic. The passenger, a
New Jersey psychiatrist, was questioned (and later released, taking a
later flight) as the bag made its way to San Diego, where the plane
taxied to an isolated area of the airport and passengers were ordered
off without their coats and carry-ons while authorities found Koshnu's
luggage and blew it up. ... How was your day?


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Is the airline now responsible for replacing the bag and contents?


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Old February 21st 05, 06:58 PM
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Blueskies wrote:

Is the airline now responsible for replacing the bag and contents?


I hope the victim sues the TSA and gets huge amounts of publicity.

Or perhaps the people on the flight with the bag that the TSA obviously
believed unsafe enough to destroy should be taking the TSA losers to
court...or at least the court of public opinion.

- Andrew

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Old February 21st 05, 11:00 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Blueskies wrote:

Is the airline now responsible for replacing the bag and contents?


I hope the victim sues the TSA and gets huge amounts of publicity.


Probably won't get very far, since she's the one who mentioned "bomb" to
security people. Even though the TSA actions were clearly vindictive,
rather than addressing any real security risk.

Or perhaps the people on the flight with the bag that the TSA obviously
believed unsafe enough to destroy should be taking the TSA losers to
court...or at least the court of public opinion.


Now *that* seems like a good tack. It's absurd that the TSA rules were not
followed closely enough to avoid "endangering" the flight in the first
place. How blowing the bag up after the fact addresses the TSA's own
failure is beyond me.

The whole thing is stupid, but I would be surprised if there are any
repurcussions to the TSA. They have a blank check to screw whomever they
want. Welcome to the post-9/11 "Land of the Used to be Free".

Pete


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Old February 22nd 05, 02:25 PM
Neil Gould
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Recently, Peter Duniho posted:

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
Blueskies wrote:

Is the airline now responsible for replacing the bag and contents?


I hope the victim sues the TSA and gets huge amounts of publicity.


Probably won't get very far, since she's the one who mentioned "bomb"
to security people. Even though the TSA actions were clearly
vindictive, rather than addressing any real security risk.

If they had retained her *and* her bag, then blown up the bag at their
site, that would be one thing. Their decision to ship the bag could be
seen as an admission on their part that they *knew* the bag was harmless.
So, why wouldn't something so obvious to us be able to be successfully
pursued by a lawyer?

Or perhaps the people on the flight with the bag that the TSA
obviously believed unsafe enough to destroy should be taking the TSA
losers to court...or at least the court of public opinion.


Now *that* seems like a good tack. It's absurd that the TSA rules
were not followed closely enough to avoid "endangering" the flight in
the first place. How blowing the bag up after the fact addresses the
TSA's own failure is beyond me.

I'd think that comprehending how this helped is beyond any rational
person. So, perhaps both the individual who lost her bag *and* the
passengers on the plane have a grievance that could, at the very least,
get some heads to roll.

The whole thing is stupid, but I would be surprised if there are any
repurcussions to the TSA. They have a blank check to screw whomever
they want. Welcome to the post-9/11 "Land of the Used to be Free".

The TSA may not suffer any consequences, but TSA employees might.
Unfortunately, given the way media works, we're not likely to find out one
way or the other.

Regards,

Neil


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Old February 22nd 05, 06:49 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Neil Gould" wrote in message
m...
[...]
So, why wouldn't something so obvious to us be able to be successfully
pursued by a lawyer?


Because that's the world we live in these days. You can thank all the
clueless Americans who willingly stood by while the government took away
their rights, in the name of "security".

Pete


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Old February 21st 05, 02:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Arketipp,

your subject line is one of the king oxymorons of the post-9/11 era. So
what do you expect?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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