Finish Gate Accident no. 2

Uvalde, Texas, August 4, 1086 (15 meter National Championships)

ASW-20 crossed the finish line at 50 feet and 85 knots, then started a
climbing turn to position himself on down-wind. Pilot sees another ship
in the pattern and turns away to avoid a
conflict.....................Let's stop the action for a moment and
discuss some things. This pilot may have been suffering from the
affects of dehydration, but his senses were working well enough to find
the airport (per GPS) and make his high speed, low altitude pass
through the finish gate. He responded to the "Good Finish" from the
gate. He should have been able to complete the flight and make a safe
landing. Why didn't he?

Resume action...................Pilot leaves airport boundries and
crashes in a housing area about 2 blocks north of the airport. He
struck power lines and then hit a pick up truck squarely in the drivers
door. The door collapsed inward absorbing a lot of energy. The whole
truck then moved sideways until the wheels hit the curb, breaking both
axles. The pilot received serious injuries to his feet and legs, but
made a full recovery. I believe he owes his life to the great big shock
absorber he ran into (truck).

Let's discuss dehydration a bit. I know a pilot that crashed, severly
dehydrated, at 4PM and he doesn't remember anything after breakfast.
What does that mean? It means he functioned all day long, right up to
the accident. He took off, towed, thermaled and flew some 60 miles
cross country to make his rendezvous with destiny. What does all this
have to do with anything? Just this; A dehydrated mind is still
functioning and can perform simple, well rehearsed, tasks. It's the
unexpected that gets you, like a conflict in the pattern.

Had the GPS Finish Cylinder been available, would the outcome of this
accident been any different? The pilot was functioning well enough to
find the airport and he had a plan. It was to finish and pull-up. Had
the finish cylinder been in use, his plan would have been to finish (1
mile) and land. Doc Cannon (NT) will tell you the simple act of pulling
up is enough to shut down a dehydrated mind. I know, some still make a
hard pull-up at the 1 mile mark. I don't, because it is no longer
necessary. I am most likely to make a gentle pull-up and then just
allow any excess speed to bleed off as I fly the remaining mile to the
airport.

JJ Sinclair
(2 of 5)

Uvalde, Texas, August 4, 1086

I thought soaring was more recent than that.

Colin

JJ, what you are saying is that after a day of contest flying, it's possible
that any pilot will be tired and dehydrated so why not make it as easy as
possible for them to finish and land. I can't argue with that.

However, pilots manage to crash on landings without either a finish gate or
cylinder to contend with when they are flying locally. Our overall accident
record suggests that we have a larger problem with pilot skills in general.

Landing a glider safely anywhere, anytime, requires a sharp pilot who is
concentrating on the task. I'd like to know how many landings the Uvalde
pilot had done in the previous year. I suspect a part of the larger problem
is that we are accepting contestants whose skills have deteriorated through
lack of practice.

The thing that troubles me is lowering the bar by 'dumbing down' the rules
to accommodate inadequate skills effectively institutionalizes the problem.
I think it's far better is to concentrate on improving pilot skills and not
on the arcane finishes that are tripping up the unprepared. Competition is
supposed to improve the breed.

Screening pilots for acceptable skills will be a tough (and politically
sensitive) task which is probably why it isn't done. But if we don't,
Mother Nature will do it for us and we all know she can be a bitch. The
screening could be as simple as requiring a yearly flight check by a SRA
approved instructor who would use some tough test standards created by the
SRA.

One example of a test would be to insure that the pilot can make a takeoff
in his glider configured as it would be for a contest (ballast, etc..)
without dragging a wing or allowing the glider to track more than 2 meters
to the side of the runway centerline. Remember that accident, JJ?

Bill Daniels


wrote in message
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Uvalde, Texas, August 4, 1086 (15 meter National Championships)

ASW-20 crossed the finish line at 50 feet and 85 knots, then started a
climbing turn to position himself on down-wind. Pilot sees another ship
in the pattern and turns away to avoid a
conflict.....................Let's stop the action for a moment and
discuss some things. This pilot may have been suffering from the
affects of dehydration, but his senses were working well enough to find
the airport (per GPS) and make his high speed, low altitude pass
through the finish gate. He responded to the "Good Finish" from the
gate. He should have been able to complete the flight and make a safe
landing. Why didn't he?

Resume action...................Pilot leaves airport boundries and
crashes in a housing area about 2 blocks north of the airport. He
struck power lines and then hit a pick up truck squarely in the drivers
door. The door collapsed inward absorbing a lot of energy. The whole
truck then moved sideways until the wheels hit the curb, breaking both
axles. The pilot received serious injuries to his feet and legs, but
made a full recovery. I believe he owes his life to the great big shock
absorber he ran into (truck).

Let's discuss dehydration a bit. I know a pilot that crashed, severly
dehydrated, at 4PM and he doesn't remember anything after breakfast.
What does that mean? It means he functioned all day long, right up to
the accident. He took off, towed, thermaled and flew some 60 miles
cross country to make his rendezvous with destiny. What does all this
have to do with anything? Just this; A dehydrated mind is still
functioning and can perform simple, well rehearsed, tasks. It's the
unexpected that gets you, like a conflict in the pattern.

Had the GPS Finish Cylinder been available, would the outcome of this
accident been any different? The pilot was functioning well enough to
find the airport and he had a plan. It was to finish and pull-up. Had
the finish cylinder been in use, his plan would have been to finish (1
mile) and land. Doc Cannon (NT) will tell you the simple act of pulling
up is enough to shut down a dehydrated mind. I know, some still make a
hard pull-up at the 1 mile mark. I don't, because it is no longer
necessary. I am most likely to make a gentle pull-up and then just
allow any excess speed to bleed off as I fly the remaining mile to the
airport.

JJ Sinclair
(2 of 5)

But, if the accidents occur due to dehydration, then passing a test while
fully hydrated may not reduce the risk of the accident at the end of the
flight.

If we are serious about the dehydration at the conclusion of the flight as
being the problem, then while the pilot is approaching, ground control at
the finish line could ask a few math questions that require the ability to
reason quickly. Failing those tests, the pilot is not authorized to do the
high speed approach, and must simply land.

Although not a contest pilot, I have suffered from noise fatigue (11 hour
flight in an airplane), dehydration and extreme bowel enlargement syndrome.
However, I must admit that if the high speed pass is expected, I would
certainly consider it - unless I had an out. Peer pressure certainly
affects men who have not entirely grown up.

Perhaps we could do the high speed pass at the start of the contest?

Colin

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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But, if the accidents occur due to dehydration, then passing a test while
fully hydrated may not reduce the risk of the accident at the end of the
flight.

If we are serious about the dehydration at the conclusion of the flight as
being the problem, then while the pilot is approaching, ground control at
the finish line could ask a few math questions that require the ability to
reason quickly. Failing those tests, the pilot is not authorized to do
the
high speed approach, and must simply land.

Although not a contest pilot, I have suffered from noise fatigue (11 hour
flight in an airplane), dehydration and extreme bowel enlargement
syndrome.
However, I must admit that if the high speed pass is expected, I would
certainly consider it - unless I had an out. Peer pressure certainly
affects men who have not entirely grown up.

Perhaps we could do the high speed pass at the start of the contest?

Colin


Dehydration is an easy problem to solve - drink water. Lost pilots skills
is harder to fix, that requires constant practice.

Bill Daniels

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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But, if the accidents occur due to dehydration, then passing a test while
fully hydrated may not reduce the risk of the accident at the end of the
flight.

Sounds like we need a mandatory water consumption rule. Perhaps there is
some electronic monitoring device that can send information the the flight
logger to help enforce the rule...

We do screen pilots that are accepted into our contests,
To get into a nationals they must be on the seeding
list (has flown in a contest within the last 3 years
and obtained at least 30% of winners score). To get
into a regionals they must be on the list or show a
gold badge and or recent cross country experience.
You make a good point and every now and then someone
slips through, but I can say the skill level I see
in contests is outstanding and among the best 'Jocks'
I have seen in 50 years of flying.
JJ
Screening pilots for acceptable skills will be a tough
(and politically
sensitive) task which is probably why it isn't done.
But if we don't,
Mother Nature will do it for us and we all know she
can be a bitch. The
screening could be as simple as requiring a yearly
flight check by a SRA
approved instructor who would use some tough test standards
created by the
SRA.

One example of a test would be to insure that the pilot
can make a takeoff
in his glider configured as it would be for a contest
(ballast, etc..)
without dragging a wing or allowing the glider to track
more than 2 meters
to the side of the runway centerline. Remember that
accident, JJ?

Bill Daniels

It is simply not true that the only people who crash are inexperienced
"poor pilots" who could be "weeded out" by any entry criteria. Peter
Masak, Clem Bowman, Gene Carpetyan etc. were among the most highly
skilled and experienced pilots around. Many of our world team pilots
have a crash or two behind them. If these guys were not skilled enough
to enter a contest, few of the rest of us belong there either.

John Cochrane
BB

"John Sinclair" wrote in message
...
We do screen pilots that are accepted into our contests,
To get into a nationals they must be on the seeding
list (has flown in a contest within the last 3 years
and obtained at least 30% of winners score). To get
into a regionals they must be on the list or show a
gold badge and or recent cross country experience.
You make a good point and every now and then someone
slips through, but I can say the skill level I see
in contests is outstanding and among the best 'Jocks'
I have seen in 50 years of flying.
JJ

Is that really enough to assure currency? What about Regionals?

I'd be more interested in the number of flights in the glider the contestant
plans to fly in the last 90 days. I've watched 1/3 of the grid at a
Regional drag a wing on takeoff. A similar number drifted 30 feet or so
from the centerline. That's not confidence inspiring.

I'd like to hear of a safety official making a radio call like."[contest
number] return and land - you're black flagged for the day," after a muffed
takeoff. If that happened once, it wouldn't happen very often after that.

You are right, the majority of the pilots at the national level are superb
pilots. They are very rarely involved in an incident or accident either.

Bill Daniels

There is an alternate, more plausible explanation for the lack of memory.
Fairly minor concussions can produce a phenomenon called retrograde amnesia.
This is seen in motor vehicle accidents and falls from heights. So the brain
would be functioning fairly normally, and not on "autopilot" untill the
accident. Then after consciouness is regained, the person reccalls nothing
for a variable period of time prior to the accident. BTW how do we know then
that the spped was 85 kt?

--
Hartley Falbaum, M.D., FAAOS
ASW27B "KF" USA
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Uvalde, Texas, August 4, 1086 (15 meter National Championships)

ASW-20 crossed the finish line at 50 feet and 85 knots, then started a
climbing turn to position himself on down-wind. Pilot sees another ship
in the pattern and turns away to avoid a

Let's discuss dehydration a bit. I know a pilot that crashed, severly
dehydrated, at 4PM and he doesn't remember anything after breakfast.
What does that mean? It means he functioned all day long, right up to
the accident. He took off, towed, thermaled and flew some 60 miles
cross country to make his rendezvous with destiny. What does all this
have to do with anything? Just this; A dehydrated mind is still
functioning and can perform simple, well rehearsed, tasks. It's the
unexpected that gets you, like a conflict in the pattern.


JJ Sinclair
(2 of 5)