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![]() When HOLD SHORT sounds like CLEARED TO CROSS THE ACTIVE. There comes a time for ALL good airmen to evaluate the impact senescence is making on their cognition and thus, their flying skills ... The alterative is leaving a legacy of death and destruction, not to mention the grief and sorrow forever carried in the memories of family and friends, when it could have been entertainment superstar upon whom time bestowed sagacity and wisdom. The choice is ours. Perhaps, cultivating a CFI friend to accompany the aging PIC while aloft would allow him to continue to navigate in the third dimension safely. It might even be more fun with a friend along to share the experience. ---------------- https://variety.com/2020/film/news/h...nt-1234593715/ Harrison Ford Under FAA Investigation After Airplane Runway Incident Harrison Ford Jim Smeal/REX/Shutterstock Harrison Ford is being investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration after an incident that occurred on a runway at Los Angeles Hawthorne Municipal Airport on April 24. The FAA said in a statement to Variety that the 77-year-old actor was piloting an airplane that crossed the runway as another plane tried to land, putting the aircrafts only 3,600 feet apart. The FAA is investigating an incident in which the pilot of an Aviat Husky taxied across the runway at Hawthorne Municipal Airport Friday afternoon while another aircraft was performing a touch-and-go landing, a spokesperson for the FAA said. In a statement to Variety, a representative for Ford explained that the incident was due to a miscommunication from Air Traffic Control and that there was little danger involved. Ford crossed the airports only runway in his aircraft after he misheard a radio instruction from ATC. He immediately acknowledged the mistake and apologized to ATC for the error, the rep said. The purpose of the flight was to maintain currency and proficiency in the aircraft. No one was injured and there was never any danger of a collision. In an audio clip from the air traffic control provided by the FAA, Ford can be heard misunderstanding the instruction and then apologizing. I told you to hold short. You need to listen up, the air traffic control said to Ford after he began crossing the runway. Excuse me, sir, I thought exactly the opposite. Im terribly sorry, Ford responded. Ford made headlines in 2017 for a similar incident at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, Calif., in which his Aviat Husky nearly collided with a 100-passenger Boeing 737 and proceeded to land on the wrong part of the tarmac. Ford was investigated by the FAA, but allowed to continue to fly without restriction, provided that he completed an awareness training, which he did. In 2015, Ford made an emergency landing on Santa Monicas Penmar Golf Course after his two-seater WWII military aircraft had a carburetor issue. Ford sustained several injuries, including a broken pelvis and ankle. Popular on Variety 8 Comments Comments are moderated. They may be edited for clarity and reprinting in whole or in part in Variety publications. Gavin Ward (pilot) May 1, 2020 at 8:07 am While its difficult to to see any ambiguity in the text shown here, that may not accurately reflect the original ATC instruction which must use very specific phraseology (as it forms a legal contract between ATC & the pilot). Before drawing a conclusion it would be instructive to hear/read the actual ATC instruction instead of just the post-incident exchange . Damon April 30, 2020 at 5:09 am What did Harrison Ford think he was told? The opposite? Is hold short ambiguous? Indiana Jones is going senile. mattr40 April 30, 2020 at 4:55 am Its time for him to stop flying before he really hurts someone but I doubt he will listen SMH Tony April 30, 2020 at 3:17 am Tower: I told you to hold short, you need to listen up Ford: Excuse me, sir, I thought exactly the opposite. Im terribly sorry, Ford: was due to a miscommunication from Air Traffic Control Uh, sorry that sounds exactly like hes still not listening and putting blame elsewhere. Thats very irresponsible. Ive taken copters out from there and theres not much room out there for mistakes and to not listen up. With this and the other instances, theres got to be a close review of his cognitive skills and abilities. You can only mess up once. I hope he reconsiders or goes to an airfield in an area far less populated. dont really April 30, 2020 at 1:00 am Ive got a bad feeling about this Reply Report comment Nomemo April 29, 2020 at 7:25 pm Can you spell S E N I L E?? Is not the first time. Reply Report comment Sammynews April 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm Its time Calista to take the keys away. billo April 29, 2020 at 7:06 pm uh, you must be one of those who think the woman holds the power. harrison ford knows better. |
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On 5/1/20 4:51 PM, Larry Dighera wrote:
When HOLD SHORT sounds like CLEARED TO CROSS THE ACTIVE. There comes a time for ALL good airmen to evaluate the impact senescence is making on their cognition and thus, their flying skills ... The alterative is leaving a legacy of death and destruction, not to mention the grief and sorrow forever carried in the memories of family and friends, when it could have been entertainment superstar upon whom time bestowed sagacity and wisdom. The choice is ours. Perhaps, cultivating a CFI friend to accompany the aging PIC while aloft would allow him to continue to navigate in the third dimension safely. It might even be more fun with a friend along to share the experience. ---------------- https://variety.com/2020/film/news/h...nt-1234593715/ Harrison Ford Under FAA Investigation After Airplane Runway Incident Harrison Ford Jim Smeal/REX/Shutterstock Harrison Ford is being investigated by the Federal Aviation Administration after an incident that occurred on a runway at Los Angeles’ Hawthorne Municipal Airport on April 24. The FAA said in a statement to Variety that the 77-year-old actor was piloting an airplane that crossed the runway as another plane tried to land, putting the aircrafts only 3,600 feet apart. “The FAA is investigating an incident in which the pilot of an Aviat Husky taxied across the runway at Hawthorne Municipal Airport Friday afternoon while another aircraft was performing a touch-and-go landing,” a spokesperson for the FAA said. In a statement to Variety, a representative for Ford explained that the incident was due to a miscommunication from Air Traffic Control and that there was little danger involved. “Ford crossed the airport’s only runway in his aircraft after he misheard a radio instruction from ATC. He immediately acknowledged the mistake and apologized to ATC for the error,” the rep said. “The purpose of the flight was to maintain currency and proficiency in the aircraft. No one was injured and there was never any danger of a collision.” In an audio clip from the air traffic control provided by the FAA, Ford can be heard misunderstanding the instruction and then apologizing. “I told you to hold short. You need to listen up,” the air traffic control said to Ford after he began crossing the runway. “Excuse me, sir, I thought exactly the opposite. I’m terribly sorry,” Ford responded. Ford made headlines in 2017 for a similar incident at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, Calif., in which his Aviat Husky nearly collided with a 100-passenger Boeing 737 and proceeded to land on the wrong part of the tarmac. Ford was investigated by the FAA, but allowed to continue to fly without restriction, provided that he completed an awareness training, which he did. In 2015, Ford made an emergency landing on Santa Monica’s Penmar Golf Course after his two-seater WWII military aircraft had a carburetor issue. Ford sustained several injuries, including a broken pelvis and ankle. Popular on Variety 8 Comments Comments are moderated. They may be edited for clarity and reprinting in whole or in part in Variety publications. Gavin Ward (pilot) May 1, 2020 at 8:07 am While its difficult to to see any ambiguity in the text shown here, that may not accurately reflect the original ATC instruction – which must use very specific phraseology (as it forms a legal contract between ATC & the pilot). Before drawing a conclusion it would be instructive to hear/read the actual ATC instruction instead of just the post-incident exchange . Damon April 30, 2020 at 5:09 am What did Harrison Ford think he was told? The “opposite”? Is “hold short” ambiguous? Indiana Jones is going senile. mattr40 April 30, 2020 at 4:55 am It’s time for him to stop flying before he really hurts someone but I doubt he will listen SMH Tony April 30, 2020 at 3:17 am Tower: “I told you to hold short, you need to listen up” Ford: ““Excuse me, sir, I thought exactly the opposite. I’m terribly sorry,” Ford: “was due to a miscommunication from Air Traffic Control ” Uh, sorry that sounds exactly like he’s ‘still’ not listening and putting blame elsewhere. That’s very irresponsible. I’ve taken copters out from there and there’s not much room out there for mistakes and to ‘not listen up’. With this and the other instances, there’s got to be a ‘close review’ of his cognitive skills and abilities. You can only ‘mess up once’. I hope ‘he’ reconsiders or goes to an airfield in an area far less populated. dont really April 30, 2020 at 1:00 am “I’ve got a bad feeling about this” Reply Report comment Nomemo April 29, 2020 at 7:25 pm Can you spell S E N I L E?? Is not the first time. Reply Report comment Sammynews April 29, 2020 at 6:29 pm It’s time Calista to take the keys away. billo April 29, 2020 at 7:06 pm uh, you must be one of those who think the woman holds the power. harrison ford knows better. Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. -- Daniel Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world |
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On Mon, 4 May 2020 22:10:02 -0700
Daniel wrote: Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. Since it appears that he flies off that airfield regularly he MUST be aware of the way it all works. As with anything connected to aviation you only get it wrong once -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 5/5/20 1:22 PM, George wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2020 22:10:02 -0700 Daniel wrote: Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. Since it appears that he flies off that airfield regularly he MUST be aware of the way it all works. As with anything connected to aviation you only get it wrong once I wasn't there so you must know far better than me. -- Daniel Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world |
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On Tue, 5 May 2020 14:03:17 -0700, Daniel wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:22 PM, George wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2020 22:10:02 -0700 Daniel wrote: Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. Since it appears that he flies off that airfield regularly he MUST be aware of the way it all works. As with anything connected to aviation you only get it wrong once I wasn't there so you must know far better than me. Listen to the audio between the tower and captain Ford on this page: https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/29/harri...control-audio/ Ford may have a radio that provides less than readable copy, but the audio seems to reveal a bit of confusion on his part. |
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On Wed, 06 May 2020 11:17:30 -0700
Larry Dighera wrote: Listen to the audio between the tower and captain Ford on this page: https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/29/harri...control-audio/ Ford may have a radio that provides less than readable copy, but the audio seems to reveal a bit of confusion on his part. Thanks Larry I seem to recall that old phrase 'Say again' Removes all doubt and the controller generally does so with more care -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Wed, 06 May 2020 11:17:30 -0700, Larry Dighera
wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 14:03:17 -0700, Daniel wrote: On 5/5/20 1:22 PM, George wrote: On Mon, 4 May 2020 22:10:02 -0700 Daniel wrote: Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. Since it appears that he flies off that airfield regularly he MUST be aware of the way it all works. As with anything connected to aviation you only get it wrong once I wasn't there so you must know far better than me. Listen to the audio between the tower and captain Ford on this page: https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/29/harri...control-audio/ Ford may have a radio that provides less than readable copy, but the audio seems to reveal a bit of confusion on his part. The ATC needs to slow down and get the marbles out of his mouth. Getting "hold short of the runway" out of that blathering takes pretty good ears and a bit of mind reading. |
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On Wed, 6 May 2020 08:22:53 +1200, George wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2020 22:10:02 -0700 Daniel wrote: Everyone assumes it's his age or senility kicking in, but I'm going to leave it to the good old bi-annual medical certificate and the FAA to determine whether he's fit or not. Since it appears that he flies off that airfield regularly he MUST be aware of the way it all works. As with anything connected to aviation you only get it wrong once You'd be surprised how many guys have survived the same mistake more than once - and others that have survived just about every mistake in the book. Must be hard to sit down with that many horseshoes up their butt - and one of these times something is going to get them - and with THEIR luck it will be something stupid someone else does - - - |
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