The cost of war

"Pete" wrote:

Did the administration strongarm the DoD (Army Corps of Engineers) into
giving it to them?

Nope. They're under a microscope. If you knew anything about
government contracts, you'd know that if it WASN'T a no-bid contract,
they'd still be trying to determine the winner.

Were there any kickbacks from that $2.2B?

Nope, but I'm sure you hope suggesting it makes it so.

Who got them?

If you have proof of anything, bring it out.

Specifically, did any of that money find its way into the Bush oil coffers?

Duh... how would he hide it if it DID "find its way into his oil
coffers"? Every cent the man makes and spends is public knowledge.

Are there any connections between the Halliburton boardroom and the Oval
Office?

It would seem so.

Guess you missed the part where Cheney donated all his stock options
to charity, huh?

Mark Hickey

From: Vingo Optomalicious
Date: 9/22/2004 2:09 PM Central Daylight Time
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"Dude" wrote:

Wow, I feel sorry for you, and I think you are an angry man. For whatever
reason you HATE the right.

Yes, I do.

Perhaps you should examine why. Try to see the
world from their viewpoint and understand them. Then maybe you can have
less pain inside.

They are all insane. There's nothing to understand beyond their greed,
avarice, lust for the death of others and self-aggrandizement.

They are insane.

And you are just as blind and closed minded as you accuse them of being.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Wow, I feel sorry for you, and I think you are an angry man. For whatever
reason you HATE the right.

Yes, I do.

Perhaps you should examine why. Try to see the
world from their viewpoint and understand them. Then maybe you can have
less pain inside.

They are all insane. There's nothing to understand beyond their greed,
avarice, lust for the death of others and self-aggrandizement.

They are insane.


You are right, there is nothing you could understand with a totally closed
mind. I find myself feeling very sorry for you even though you obviously hate
me.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

The civilized world is paying the price of poverty. When you are hungry you will do just about anything...


"RobertR237" wrote in message ...

Wow, I feel sorry for you, and I think you are an angry man. For whatever
reason you HATE the right.

Yes, I do.

Perhaps you should examine why. Try to see the
world from their viewpoint and understand them. Then maybe you can have
less pain inside.

They are all insane. There's nothing to understand beyond their greed,
avarice, lust for the death of others and self-aggrandizement.

They are insane.


You are right, there is nothing you could understand with a totally closed
mind. I find myself feeling very sorry for you even though you obviously hate
me.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

The civilized world is paying the price of poverty. When you are hungry you
will do just about anything...

Two problems with that:

1) The September-11 terrorists were not poor, and all but one came from a
nonpoor country.

2) Iraq is a nonpoor country. That its mineral wealth went to building a
tyrant's luxury palaces and not to the people, was not the fault of the
"civilized world."

The War of 2001 is not about poverty, it is about a fanatical belief system.
In some places, that system *uses* poverty as a recruiting aid, but it would
exist even if none of them were poor.

Have you ever had one of those moments where you feel like telling the
wingnuts on the right, "I hope Bush gets reSelected so this country gets
what it deserves"?

Sounds to me like your crying in your beer!
How much time did you serve in the Military? Cause you sound like an expert.
If you did, how can you call Kerry anything
but an opportunist? You must think that
Sadam was a prince and all the killing of his
own people was perfectly ok. Where in the
constitution does it say we should have our
health care paid by the Govenment. Medicare is a good start, but if you spend
your entire life working and not saving or planning for you OWN health care,
maybe you should get a better job or stop buying all those SUV's and vacation
villas. I personally don't want to be on the DOLE, because I am a grownup and
should take responsibilily for MYSELF. If you feel you
are being put upon by whoever is in office
voting is the way to go. But YOU live in
a democracy and the Majority rules. Good
luck if you choose someone with a vassilating track record versus a guy who
can take names and kick ass. I wonder
why we have not suffered another attack
in this country. Maybe this guy is doing
at least ONE thing right. Don't get me
wrong, I spent 21 years in the Military
fighting for you to have YOUR right to
say what you want to, but don't get up on
a soapbox and tell me something YOU
have not totally checked out to be true.

Bill OParowski
USMC, USAF, Data General, Apollo Computer, Hewlett Packard, A/C Delivery
Services.

"OSKI 3" wrote in message
...

Where in the
constitution does it say we should have our
health care paid by the Govenment. Medicare is a good start, but if you
spend
your entire life working and not saving or planning for you OWN health
care,
maybe you should get a better job or stop buying all those SUV's and
vacation
villas.

Just how does one save up for radical cancer therapy after you retire and
don't have company health insurance. No insurance company is going to
insure you and if you do find insurance you can say goodbye to your nest egg
that you have been saving for all your life. Oh yeah, you get to sell your
house and give it to a doctor. What a great way to grow old. Just when
you've finished working all your life, and through the luck of the draw, you
get to lose everything you own to the health industry. But, at least you
have your life, such that it is, living in a rental at a trailer park.

..

Just how does one save up for radical cancer therapy after you retire and
don't have company health insurance. No insurance company is going to
insure you and if you do find insurance you can say goodbye to your nest
egg
that you have been saving for all your life. Oh yeah, you get to sell
your
house and give it to a doctor. What a great way to grow old. Just when
you've finished working all your life, and through the luck of the draw,
you
get to lose everything you own to the health industry. But, at least you
have your life, such that it is, living in a rental at a trailer park.



One can buy his own insurance. The fact that you cannot get a decent policy
is largely due to government interference in insurance.

"Dude" wrote in message
...
.

Just how does one save up for radical cancer therapy after you retire
and
don't have company health insurance. No insurance company is going to
insure you and if you do find insurance you can say goodbye to your nest
egg
that you have been saving for all your life. Oh yeah, you get to sell
your
house and give it to a doctor. What a great way to grow old. Just when
you've finished working all your life, and through the luck of the draw,
you
get to lose everything you own to the health industry. But, at least
you
have your life, such that it is, living in a rental at a trailer park.



One can buy his own insurance. The fact that you cannot get a decent
policy
is largely due to government interference in insurance.

Dude, you're a little out in right field on this one. What do you think
insurance is going to cost you after you have retired and had a bout with
cancer? Either way it's going to cost you your house and everything you
have worked for all your life. This is where countries with socialized
medicine have it over the US. People live longer and pay less for medical
care than in the US. Have a read.

http://news.sympatico.msn.ca/Health/...btitle=&abc=ab

When I was in Italy in the 80's I asked a fellow how healthcare was paid for
there....he didn't say much about it but he pointed at the price of
gasoline..which was over 4.50 a gallon. I took it that a gas tax paid for
Italy's medical program. I don't think Americans would go for that at all.
To be honest I do not know what is scarier, the government in charge of
our healthcare or selling my home later in life to pay for good health care.
Maybe they could start where the problems start..stop our overpayment of
insurance. That includes ALL insurance, health home auto...seems the
insurance industry has the biggest scam on our citizens than about anything.
"Sandy" wrote in message
...

"Dude" wrote in message
...
.

Just how does one save up for radical cancer therapy after you retire
and
don't have company health insurance. No insurance company is going to
insure you and if you do find insurance you can say goodbye to your
nest
egg
that you have been saving for all your life. Oh yeah, you get to sell
your
house and give it to a doctor. What a great way to grow old. Just
when
you've finished working all your life, and through the luck of the
draw,
you
get to lose everything you own to the health industry. But, at least
you
have your life, such that it is, living in a rental at a trailer park.



One can buy his own insurance. The fact that you cannot get a decent
policy
is largely due to government interference in insurance.

Dude, you're a little out in right field on this one. What do you think
insurance is going to cost you after you have retired and had a bout with
cancer? Either way it's going to cost you your house and everything you
have worked for all your life. This is where countries with socialized
medicine have it over the US. People live longer and pay less for medical
care than in the US. Have a read.


http://news.sympatico.msn.ca/Health/...btitle=&abc=ab