Cross country to Canada

Ladies and gentlemen,

I've been invited on a Canadian fishing trip and would like to fly
myself and one passenger to Red Lake, Ontario. We leave June 16th. I
am in the process of preliminary flight planning. I've browsed the
AOPA website for info and called Canadian customs. This will be my
first border crossing and would appreciate any help from you guys.

Back ground info: I am a VFR pilot only. I have around 800 hours and
I have 3 or 4 cross country trips of similar length under my belt. I
am more comfortable with non-towered airports but have flown under the
Dallas - Fort Worth Class B area some and have no real fear of towered
airports. I've flown into Oshkosh twice. I just trained and am more
familiar with non-towered fields and seem to meet nice people at
smaller fields. To be brutally honest, my radio skills are adequate
but probably not much better, (in spite of reading Bob Gardners book).
Mainly just from lack of practice. There are few towered fields near
my home base. I have an autogas STC for my Cherokee 140 and will use
it if available, but it is not a show stopper at all if I have to buy
100LL. The Cherokee will be loaded to within 100 pounds of gross, so
adequate runways are a must, say 2500 feet minimum. A leg length of
about 300 NM is preferred due to fuel & bladder management issues.

1. I would appreciate any advice on airports and small airplane
friendly FBO's along the 900 + nautical mile route from Woodward,
Ok.(KWWR) - Grand Island, Ne. (KGRI) - Sioux Falls, SD (KFSD) -
Baudette, Mn (KBDE) - Red Lake, Ontario (CYRL).

2. Due to the trip length we will probably overnight in Baudette or
somewhere near and I would appreciate recommendations concerning
hotel, rental or courtesy car, and eatery accommodations in that area.
AirNav.com's fuel price data is pitifully ancient on many airports
along this route.

3. If anyone has used Baudette customs coming back into the states, I
would like to hear of your experiences there.

4. Looking over the charts I ordered, the area between Baudette and
Red Lake appears to be full of swamp, lakes and forest with very, very
few emergency landing sites. Safer route suggestions along this leg
would be greatly appreciated, especially from anyone familiar with the
area and its terrain. A detour, even of a hundred miles or more in
the interest of safety will be carefully considered.

5. For those of you with meteorological crystal balls... What can I
expect for weather conditions in the vicinity of Red Lake and North of
the border in mid - June. I am familiar with the thunderstorms
marching across the plains this time of year but not so familiar with
weather systems that seem to park themselves for days at a time over
one area. Is there much chance of getting weathered in for more than
a day or two?

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"JJS" wrote in message ...
I am more comfortable with non-towered airports but have flown
under the Dallas - Fort Worth Class B area some

If you're from (or can go to) Texas, why in the world would you want to go
to Canada????

You'll be hard pressed to find any Lone Star beer up there, only that
caribou **** that they call beer...

You want an answer from the group and you use x-no-archive? Must not really
want an answer, I guess...

On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:14:50 GMT, Grumman-581 wrote:

You want an answer from the group and you use x-no-archive? Must not really
want an answer, I guess...

what has the extra header to do with wanting an answer or not? good
archives honor the wish of the poster and don't archive the posting.

if it is easily achievable that respectful archives honor my wish then I
will request this wish.

#m

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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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what has the extra header to do with wanting an answer or not? good
archives honor the wish of the poster and don't archive the posting.

if it is easily achievable that respectful archives honor my wish then I
will request this wish.

What it means is that the message might not stay around long enough for
*some* people to actually read it... Personally, I believe that if it's
worth posting once, you shouldn't try to hide it later... The USENET
archives are great search tools and the x-archive crap attempts to defeat
that...

On Sat, 14 May 2005 21:22:39 GMT, Grumman-581 wrote:

what has the extra header to do with wanting an answer or not? good
archives honor the wish of the poster and don't archive the posting.

if it is easily achievable that respectful archives honor my wish then I
will request this wish.

What it means is that the message might not stay around long enough for
*some* people to actually read it...

it (the posting) might be worthless in a wekk or so. Typically a newsserver
holds articles for 1 or 2 months, depending on what the newsadmin has set.

Personally, I believe that if it's
worth posting once, you shouldn't try to hide it later...

I don't like profiling.
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_uauthors=grumman%23%23%23%40gmail.com

The USENET
archives are great search tools and the x-archive crap attempts to defeat
that...

but it it up to the poster if he want's his postings to be part of the
archive.

"gun control will help the government to fight terrorism." (but you'll
never agree, you're also willingly and knowingly breaking gun control laws,
as you posted on March 23rd)

but just as you wrote on March 23rd: "In the end, Darwin always wins... "

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If you're from (or can go to) Texas, why in the world would you want
to go
to Canada????

I'm from Oklahoma. (My mother is from Winnipeg. So I'm drawn to the
North by my Canuck blood line, I guess). Seriously, I want to go
catch some big fish. More important than that, I want to get far, far
away from a very stressful, intense job for several days.

You'll be hard pressed to find any Lone Star beer up there, only
that
caribou **** that they call beer...

Lone Star reminds me of that Scotch Buy brand beer that Ideal Food
Stores or Safeway used to sell here locally. My Dad used to buy it
because it was all he could afford. I promise to sample some Canadian
beer and tell you which I liked best. (BTW we will be very near
Woodland Caribou Prov. Park, so you may have a point about their
beer... but I hope you are wrong).

You want an answer from the group and you use x-no-archive? Must
not really
want an answer, I guess...

I took the no-archive out of my sig line. Sorry it offended you so.
I do wish to gather the groups collective wisdom so that I can make
this a safe adventure. Upon reflection, you are correct and others
may learn from this trip. If others have a desire, I will send a
report on how it went when I get back.



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"JJS" jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net wrote in message
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You'll be hard pressed to find any Lone Star beer up there, only that
caribou **** that they call beer...

Lone Star reminds me of that Scotch Buy brand beer that Ideal Food Stores
or Safeway used to sell here locally. My Dad used to buy it because it
was all he could afford. I promise to sample some Canadian beer and tell
you which I liked best.

I will personally guarantee that you will like the beer. It will forever
spoil you for that glorified US soda pop.

You will *not* like the price, even in spite of the favourable dollar
exchange.

"Icebound" wrote in message
...
I will personally guarantee that you will like the beer. It will forever
spoil you for that glorified US soda pop.

That depends on the audience. For some reason, there are people in the US
who actually *prefer* "beers" like Miller, Budweiser, etc.

You will *not* like the price, even in spite of the favourable dollar
exchange.

You get what you pay for.

Pete

"JJS" wrote in message ...
I'm from Oklahoma.

OK, that explains why you want to go *somewhere*... grin

Seriously, I want to go catch some big fish.

Have you tried offshore fishing? The Gulf is closer than Canada and as a
plus, you don't have to leave your guns at the border...

More important than that, I want to get far, far
away from a very stressful, intense job for several days.

And you've always had this secret desire to freeze your 'nads off, right?
grin

Lone Star reminds me of that Scotch Buy brand beer that Ideal Food
Stores or Safeway used to sell here locally. My Dad used to buy it
because it was all he could afford.

That's not the reason to buy Lone Star... You buy it because it is the
NATIONAL beer of Texas... Yeah, it probably tastes like Longhorn ****, but
Budweiser is Clydesdale **** -- so what?

I took the no-archive out of my sig line. Sorry it offended you so.

The people who use Google Groups for reading USENET thank you...

Grumman-581 wrote:

Have you tried offshore fishing? The Gulf is closer than Canada and as a
plus, you don't have to leave your guns at the border...

Do you really use your guns for getting fish?

(You also don't have to leave them at the Canadian border, except for
prohibited models, if you do your homework and get a license and
necessary registrations ahead of time. You can also get a "borrow"
permit to use Canadian guns.)

And you've always had this secret desire to freeze your 'nads off, right?
grin

Should be reasonably warm by the end of June. Anyone going needs to
remember to bring lots of insect repellent. The black flies in Northern
Ontario can be really annoying. "Deep Woods" Off! is particularly
recommended. Lots of DEET.