Planes that are afraid of crashing?

An interesting excerpt from
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/05/23/b...oad/index.html :

" Pearson (some brainiac computer expert guy) predicted that it would be
possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of
intelligence as early as 2020.
IBM's BlueGene computer can already perform 70.72 trillion calculations a
second and Pearson said the next computing goal was to replicate
consciousness.

"We're already looking at how you might structure a computer that could
become conscious. Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and
that's what we're trying to design in computer."

Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new
sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of
crashing."



I'm not sure if this is scary as hell or not.

--
Jim Fisher

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
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" Pearson (some brainiac computer expert guy) predicted that it would be
possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of
intelligence as early as 2020.

People have been saying AI is 10 or 20 years away since the late 70's (at
least).

Furthermore, we can create an airplane today that acts exactly like an
airplane that was actually afraid of crashing. In the case of machine
intelligence, emotions may be one way of encoding goals and motivations, but
I hardly think it's clearly the best way.

[...]
Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new
sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of
crashing."

I'm not sure if this is scary as hell or not.

Possibly for machines with extremely complex design goals (consider a fully
autonomous replacement for human soldiers, for example), using emotions
might be an effective way to allow various competing interests to be
efficiently processed. But when you're just trying to get the machine from
point A to point B without running into anything, I doubt adding emotions
would improve things.

I think talk like that isn't so much scary as it is just plain dumb.

Pete

I wonder what the afraid-of-crashing plane would do if a crankshaft
broke. But maybe by then they'll have chutes on everything so it can
drop safely into a playground.

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
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[...]
" Pearson (some brainiac computer expert guy) predicted that it would be
possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of
intelligence as early as 2020.

People have been saying AI is 10 or 20 years away since the late 70's (at
least).

And those predictions were correct. We do have "AI" and it's been here for
at least 10 years or so in one form or another.

A "conscious" computer, though. That's light years beyond "AI."
Consciousness entails self-preservation ("fear") and all the other emotional
baggage we humans deal with every day. That's much different than the fuzzy
logic AI that causes a plane to respond with a synthesized "pull up!" when
the plane "knows" it's not landing.

Machine consciousness is not "dumb" nor "scary." We humes will take it for
granted in the not too distant future. That's just mind blowing.

--
Jim Fisher

"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
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I wonder what the afraid-of-crashing plane would do if a crankshaft
broke.

It would say, "Oh ****!" for you.

--
Jim Fisher

Machine consciousness is not "dumb" nor "scary."

Machine consciousness =is= scary, because it means that we won't know
what the machines will do, or why. It's already happening with
software, although part of the problem there is that the publishers
refuse to tell us what the software is =actually= doing, (and most
people don't care to know).

Jose
--
The price of freedom is... well... freedom.
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What would prevent the plane's curiousity from testing it's own limits? Or
commiting planacide?

In article , Jim Fisher
wrote:

Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new
sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of
crashing."

I'm not sure if this is scary as hell or not.

"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that..."

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
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An interesting excerpt from
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/05/23/b...oad/index.html :

" Pearson (some brainiac computer expert guy) predicted that it would be
possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of
intelligence as early as 2020.
IBM's BlueGene computer can already perform 70.72 trillion calculations a
second and Pearson said the next computing goal was to replicate
consciousness.

"We're already looking at how you might structure a computer that could
become conscious. Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and
that's what we're trying to design in computer."

Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new
sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of
crashing."



I'm not sure if this is scary as hell or not.

--
Jim Fisher

Sounds redundant to me. You've already got the pilot who's afraid of
crashing, plus any passengers. No need to unnecessarily torment an innocent
machine by scaring it too...

KB

Manly low wings wouldn't use that would they Jim

Good to see you back!

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

In article ,
"Jim Fisher" wrote:

An interesting excerpt from
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/05/23/b...oad/index.html :

" Pearson (some brainiac computer expert guy) predicted that it would be
possible to build a fully conscious computer with superhuman levels of
intelligence as early as 2020.
IBM's BlueGene computer can already perform 70.72 trillion calculations a
second and Pearson said the next computing goal was to replicate
consciousness.

"We're already looking at how you might structure a computer that could
become conscious. Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and
that's what we're trying to design in computer."

Pearson said that computer consciousness would make feasible a whole new
sphere of emotional machines, such as airplanes that are afraid of
crashing."



I'm not sure if this is scary as hell or not.