Solid State battery technology Vid

https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T


Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+10, David Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.

Lithium batteries have been steadily improving year after year. The miraculous breakthroughs happen one small step at a time.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...quyT7Gv7uWOUKA

On 5/12/2021 3:58 PM, Matthew Scutter wrote:
On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+10, David Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.

Lithium batteries have been steadily improving year after year. The miraculous breakthroughs happen one small step at a time.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...quyT7Gv7uWOUKA

I call that a dramatic improvement in cost/benefit ratio. I'd noticed batteries, and items
like power tools that have a lot of battery in them, seem much cheaper now, it's even
better than I thought.

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https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On 5/12/2021 6:58 PM, Matthew Scutter wrote:
On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+10, David Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.

Lithium batteries have been steadily improving year after year. The miraculous breakthroughs happen one small step at a time.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...quyT7Gv7uWOUKA


That's a nice graph. For one thing, both axes start from zero as they
should. And this is for LFP batteries, the "good" lithium... I hope
we'll see them used for motorglider propulsion soon. That graph ends in
"2019E" (eh?), I seem to have noticed a large drop in LFP prices since then.

On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 23:58:57 UTC+1, Matthew Scutter wrote:
On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+10, David Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.
Lithium batteries have been steadily improving year after year. The miraculous breakthroughs happen one small step at a time.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...quyT7Gv7uWOUKA

The graph seems to show a levelling off of LFP price/kWh and a noticeable slowing in the improvement in energy density.

On 5/13/21 12:20 AM, John Galloway wrote:
On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 23:58:57 UTC+1, Matthew Scutter wrote:
On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+10, David Scott wrote:
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 7:14:28 AM UTC-7, kinsell wrote:
On 5/10/21 8:38 AM, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php...8/#post-639377

Maybe this could have a positive effect on electric MG range?
Nick
T

Miraculous breakthroughs are always just a couple years away. I know
it's true, cause they've been saying that for 20 years now.
Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough I don't think solid state sounds like it's going to be a miracle. It does sound like it will be a significant improvement though.
Lithium batteries have been steadily improving year after year. The miraculous breakthroughs happen one small step at a time.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...quyT7Gv7uWOUKA

The graph seems to show a levelling off of LFP price/kWh and a noticeable slowing in the improvement in energy density.


Shhhh. If the facts don't fit the narrative, you're supposed to ignore
the facts. That's how it works these days.

I got a real kick out of the interview with the CEO. In that video, he
had a chart of the Quantumscape stock price behind him, showing it going
to the moon.

Pulling up the one year chart, it started at $10, peaked at $132 in
December, and it's down to $27 now, and headed lower. The Gamestop of
the battery world.

The company is not in business to develop batteries, they're fleecing
naive investors. it's a classical pump-and-dump scheme, fueled by the
ever popular SPAC reverse acquisition. Very creative of them. All
sorts of wild claims, with no actual results to show for them. For a
more sober view of the company, read this:

https://investorplace.com/2021/05/qs...ess-buying-it/

On Wed, 12 May 2021 14:49:08 -0700, David Scott wrote:

Unless you consider NiMH to lithium a miraculous breakthrough

I think *any* move away from NiMH (including a move back to NiCd) is a
major improvement.


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