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Hi,
I´m looking for advice on mounting wheel fairings to a 1973 C150. Is there anything that I have to consider aside from having the right mounting plates ? Thanks ! Robert |
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I have a 1967 'C' model Mooney and am thinking about upgrading. I'll
probably end up with a Mooney 231/252/262, but I'm looking at everything turbocharged. In poking around Barron's web site I saw the following: http://www.barronthomas.com/34772.htm Garmin 430 and Garmin 530. Known ice and factory air conditioning with reasonable times and a good price. I called and talked with him last week. He was pleasant enough if not terribly helpful. I made an appointemnt to see the Seneca today at 1pm. I walked into his office at exactly 1:00 pm. No Barron. His secretary paged him. No Barron. She paged him again at 1:15 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:30 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:45 pm. No Barron but he called the office and said he would be there in 15 minutes. At 2:00 pm and no Barron, I left. I had tied down a fair distance away. Just as I was getting back to the Mooney, here comes Barron in a bright yellow Hummer. He said we could go look at the Seneca now if I want. It wasn't even there ! It was at another airport we would have to fly to. I told him no thanks, I have other appointments I have to attend. Barron won't be getting my business with this or any future transaction. Since I doubt Barron owns the plane outright, he's probably just brokering it, I wonder if the owner knows how he's screwing potential buyers ? --- Ken Reed http://www.dentalzzz.com |
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look up the n-number , find the owner and send a nice letter
BT "Ken Reed" wrote in message ink.net... I have a 1967 'C' model Mooney and am thinking about upgrading. I'll probably end up with a Mooney 231/252/262, but I'm looking at everything turbocharged. In poking around Barron's web site I saw the following: http://www.barronthomas.com/34772.htm Garmin 430 and Garmin 530. Known ice and factory air conditioning with reasonable times and a good price. I called and talked with him last week. He was pleasant enough if not terribly helpful. I made an appointemnt to see the Seneca today at 1pm. I walked into his office at exactly 1:00 pm. No Barron. His secretary paged him. No Barron. She paged him again at 1:15 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:30 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:45 pm. No Barron but he called the office and said he would be there in 15 minutes. At 2:00 pm and no Barron, I left. I had tied down a fair distance away. Just as I was getting back to the Mooney, here comes Barron in a bright yellow Hummer. He said we could go look at the Seneca now if I want. It wasn't even there ! It was at another airport we would have to fly to. I told him no thanks, I have other appointments I have to attend. Barron won't be getting my business with this or any future transaction. Since I doubt Barron owns the plane outright, he's probably just brokering it, I wonder if the owner knows how he's screwing potential buyers ? --- Ken Reed http://www.dentalzzz.com |
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BTIZ wrote:
look up the n-number , find the owner and send a nice letter Might be possible. If Thomas put the N-number in his ads. Think maybe that's why he doesn't do that? George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:49:35 GMT, George Patterson
wrote: BTIZ wrote: look up the n-number , find the owner and send a nice letter Might be possible. If Thomas put the N-number in his ads. Think maybe that's why he doesn't do that? Brokers don't put the N-Number in the ads because they don't want you to approach the owner directly for the sale. -Nathan |
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Are brokered sales executed like a house with a realtor? (i.e., the seller
pays the broker a percentage at the sale?) Or, what? - Don Any nation that does not honor its heroes will not long endure - A. Lincoln |
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"GP" == George Patterson writes:
GP BTIZ wrote: look up the n-number , find the owner and send a nice letter GP Might be possible. If Thomas put the N-number in his GP ads. Think maybe that's why he doesn't do that? So do a geographical+aircraft type filter on the FAA aircraft database and find it that way. |
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Brilliant! Here are some candidates:
N226JR 54UT N3043M N2285M These are PA-34-200T Pipers registered in Maricopa County, where this broker operates out of. Could be brokering a remote sale, sure, but trying Occams razor. |
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Barron won't be getting my business with this or any future
transaction. Since I doubt Barron owns the plane outright, he's probably just brokering it, I wonder if the owner knows how he's screwing potential buyers ? look up the n-number , find the owner and send a nice letter N# isn't on any of the photos. Convenient, eh ? --- Ken Reed http://www.dentalzzz.com |
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Ken Reed wrote:
I have a 1967 'C' model Mooney and am thinking about upgrading. I'll probably end up with a Mooney 231/252/262, but I'm looking at everything turbocharged. In poking around Barron's web site I saw the following: http://www.barronthomas.com/34772.htm Garmin 430 and Garmin 530. Known ice and factory air conditioning with reasonable times and a good price. I called and talked with him last week. He was pleasant enough if not terribly helpful. I made an appointemnt to see the Seneca today at 1pm. I walked into his office at exactly 1:00 pm. No Barron. His secretary paged him. No Barron. She paged him again at 1:15 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:30 pm. No Barron. She paged him at 1:45 pm. No Barron but he called the office and said he would be there in 15 minutes. At 2:00 pm and no Barron, I left. I had tied down a fair distance away. Just as I was getting back to the Mooney, here comes Barron in a bright yellow Hummer. He said we could go look at the Seneca now if I want. It wasn't even there ! It was at another airport we would have to fly to. I told him no thanks, I have other appointments I have to attend. Barron won't be getting my business with this or any future transaction. Since I doubt Barron owns the plane outright, he's probably just brokering it, I wonder if the owner knows how he's screwing potential buyers ? --- Ken Reed http://www.dentalzzz.com I had a lousy experience last fall with another broker based at SDL. A friend and I spent the better part of a year looking for a 70s AA5B Tiger to partner on. One popped up in T. A. P. last fall right here in Scottsdale, so we went over and took a look. Everything looked decent on the surface so we inquired about moving the airplane across town to Deer Valley for a pre-buy inspection. The broker informed us we'd need to place a 10% deposit before we could put the airplane in the hands of our mechanic. This was the first time I'd heard of anything like that, but he assured us it would be refundable in the event we didn't do a deal. We went home to begin scraping up the cash and the broker called my partner later that afternoon and laid on a sales pitch worthy of the slickest used-car salesman. It seems there was a party in Tucson interested in the plane and we'd need to agree right now to pay his asking price and we'd need to fax over a signed purchase agreement right away. He assured us that anything that came up in the pre-buy would be negotiable off that price. My partner and I knew we were being worked over but based on the airplane we saw and others we had looked at, and the price (and knowing how tough it was to find an airplane in that apparent shape), we decided to go for it. That was Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Monday morning after the 4-day weekend we called the broker. No answer, no return call. Nothing Tuesday, Wednesday, ... finally heard from the guy the following Monday. He said sorry to have to tell us but another party had purchased the airplane. My partner said he didn't understand how that could be the case seeing as how we had purchased the airplane over a week before, but the broker waffled, holiday weekend, didn't get the fax, yadda yadda... Not much we could do, but (maybe not surprisingly) the broker called back a week later with the news that there were some problems with the other parties pre-buy inspection and maybe we would like another crack at it. The partner told him, ah, we wouldn't really ever do business with him thanks. He went ballistic and called my partner a Mother****er. What's with these guys? Anyway, the story get worse then much better. We found another fine specimen of a Tiger for sale in April, and after paying for a (spotless) pre-buy inspection and negotiating terms, the seller suddenly stopped returning calls when we called with financing all lined up looking for an account number to wire funds into. I'm not sure if they got cold feet about selling or if someone else offered more money. After stewing about that situation for a few days my partner called with details on another Tiger for sale in northern California. It was just a few bucks more than the most recent deal that had fallen through, but it had an even fresher factory re-man engine, a Garmin 430, new paint and new interior - among many other upgrades. The sellers were an absolute pleasure to deal with and we've been getting acquainted with our new acquisition for the past few weeks and having a ball! Now, rats, I've got to find a way to get her out of town for some real cross-country. I'm thinking maybe a week somewhere in maybe mid-Wisconson... Maybe late July... ![]() I guess the moral of my story is to hang in there, and watch out for those brokers. -R |
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