Bad place to stall

Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:03:01 -0400, Stubby
wrote:

Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

Yup.

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Stubby wrote:
Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

Find a V-g diagram for the airplane and you will see where the airspeed
and g-loading intersect.

pull back hard, kick in some rudder and you'll get a neat snap roll.

Tony wrote:
pull back hard, kick in some rudder and you'll get a neat snap roll.

Right into the ground!

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Tony wrote:
pull back hard, kick in some rudder and you'll get a neat snap roll.

Right into the ground!

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

If your gonna go, go with a bang!

Once upon a time there was a geology instructor at Western Washington
University who was also an aerobatic pilot. He got hooked up with someone
over in the Middle East (king of Jordan?) and went there to teach him
aerobatics...the Arab was already jet-qualified. He did exactly what you
describe, only on television news. Hard way to watch someone die.

Bob Gardner

"Stubby" wrote in message
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Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

"Stubby" wrote in message
...
Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

Yes indeed. Low altitude vertical recoveries and the safety issues
associated with them as they relate to the air show demonstration
environment happen to be a specialty of mine. There is an feature article
dealing with what I have to say on exactly this issue in the Feb 2004 issue
of Aeroplane Monthly; "Precision Decision" by Gen Des Barker of the South
African Air Force. You can either obtain a back issue from the publisher or
if you email me back channel, I'll be happy to send a copy of the article to
you on a pdf file. The article deals almost directly with your question as
that relates to flying the P51 Mustang, although it covers a great deal
more.
Dudley Henriques

Suppose you are in the final quarter of a loop maneuver, looking at the
ground. Your speed is high and you are pulling back hard to bring the
plane back to level. Can that result in a stall?

Think of it this way, the pilot flew into the ground because he/she
failed to properly deduce the correct altitude to fly the maneuver based
on the then current conditions (density altitude, aircraft condition,
pilot condition, terrain, etc.)
Many times an underlying cause is pilot ego.
Showing off on the spur of the moment to impress others without
considering all the above factors.

The last words of many a redneck pilot are "Hey, y'all, watch THIS."

Jim


Showing off on the spur of the moment to impress others without
considering all the above factors.