adjacent airspace handoff

Say I fly VFR from ISP to FRG. It's less than two miles from the end of
ISP's Class C to the start of FRG's Class D (unless I stay below 1500 for
more than ten miles, which I'd rather not do). In a situation like this,
would the Class C controller typically 1) hand me off to the Class D
controller; 2) approve an early frequency change; or 3) neither?

--Gary

I would address this question to someone at ISP, if I were in this
situation. However, my educated guess is that the handoff has already been
coordinated before the wheels leave the ground. This is surely the subject
of a "letter of agreement" between the facilities.

Bob Gardner

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
Say I fly VFR from ISP to FRG. It's less than two miles from the end of
ISP's Class C to the start of FRG's Class D (unless I stay below 1500 for
more than ten miles, which I'd rather not do). In a situation like this,
would the Class C controller typically 1) hand me off to the Class D
controller; 2) approve an early frequency change; or 3) neither?

--Gary

Call ISP and ask for copies of their LOA's with surrounding ATC facilities.

Bob Gardner wrote:
I would address this question to someone at ISP, if I were in this
situation. However, my educated guess is that the handoff has already been
coordinated before the wheels leave the ground. This is surely the subject
of a "letter of agreement" between the facilities.

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...
Say I fly VFR from ISP to FRG. It's less than two miles from the end of
ISP's Class C to the start of FRG's Class D (unless I stay below 1500 for
more than ten miles, which I'd rather not do). In a situation like this,
would the Class C controller typically 1) hand me off to the Class D
controller; 2) approve an early frequency change; or 3) neither?

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:59:37 -0400, "Gary Drescher"
wrote in
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Say I fly VFR from ISP to FRG. It's less than two miles from the end of
ISP's Class C to the start of FRG's Class D (unless I stay below 1500 for
more than ten miles, which I'd rather not do). In a situation like this,
would the Class C controller typically 1) hand me off to the Class D
controller; 2) approve an early frequency change; or 3) neither?


My experience has been, that if the Class C controller hands you off
to Approach Control (usually as a result of your request to Clearance
Delivery), airspace transitions will be coordinated.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
news
My experience has been, that if the Class C controller hands you off
to Approach Control (usually as a result of your request to Clearance
Delivery), airspace transitions will be coordinated.

Probably class C towerclass C departure, then they will instruct you to
contact class D tower.

--
Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
news

My experience has been, that if the Class C controller hands you off
to Approach Control (usually as a result of your request to Clearance
Delivery), airspace transitions will be coordinated.


The Class C controller is Approach Control.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:37:16 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
et::


The Class C controller is Approach Control.

I was referring to the Class C Local Controller.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

I was referring to the Class C Local Controller.


Well, unless you're staying in the pattern, the Class C Local Controller
will ship everyone to Approach Control.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:07:23 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
t::


Well, unless you're staying in the pattern, the Class C Local Controller
will ship everyone to Approach Control.

Everyone? Actually, my experience has been that the Class C Local
Controller hands departing flights off to Radar Advisories before the
hand off to _Departure_ Control. Departure Control will terminate
Radar Advisory Service, and coordination through en route airspace, at
some point unless Departure Control is aware you wish to continue
receiving the service beyond that point.

At KSNA, if you append the word 'local' after the name of the VFR
departure you request from Clearance Delivery, your flight will not be
handed off to Departure Control at all; after you exit the Class C
boundary, service is terminated: 1200 beacon code. The word 'local'
implies that you will be operating in the local area and do not wish
to receive Radar Advisory Service.

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
...

Say I fly VFR from ISP to FRG. It's less than two miles from the end of
ISP's Class C to the start of FRG's Class D (unless I stay below 1500 for
more than ten miles, which I'd rather not do). In a situation like this,
would the Class C controller typically 1) hand me off to the Class D
controller; 2) approve an early frequency change; or 3) neither?


FAA Order 7110.65P Air Traffic Control

Chapter 7. Visual

Section 8. Class C Service- Terminal

7-8-8. TERMINATION OF SERVICE

Unless aircraft are landing at secondary airports or have requested
termination of service while in the outer area, provide services until the
aircraft departs the associated outer area. Terminate Class C service to
aircraft landing at other than the primary airport at a sufficient distance
from the airport to allow the pilot to change to the appropriate
frequency for traffic and airport information.

PHRASEOLOGY-
CHANGE TO ADVISORY FREQUENCY APPROVED,

or

CONTACT (facility identification).