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Old September 7th 05, 03:44 PM
Jay Honeck
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We booked our first refugees at the Inn yesterday -- an older couple who had
stayed with us on vacation in the past, and who lost everything in Katrina.

They are living day-to-day, not sure when -- or if -- they'll be able to
return home. When I asked them why they came so far North to stay, they
just shrugged their shoulders and said "Because we like it here..."

So, the Constellation Suite is their new home until further notice... (They
like old prop-driven airliners...)

Interestingly, others in New Orleans have decided that Iowa doesn't sound so
good to them:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/app...65/1001&lead=1


Here's the story, in case the link expires:
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Iowa is ready, evacuees are not

Des Moines Register

September 7, 2005
Iowa is ready to welcome thousands of Hurricane Katrina evacuees - but it
was unclear Tuesday whether any of the people fleeing the Gulf Coast want to
come.

Iowans raced to be ready for hundreds of homeless people who had been
expected to arrive as soon as Tuesday afternoon.

The Iowa National Guard and American Red Cross prepared the Iowa State
Fairgrounds for up to 1,000 people who were expected to come from evacuation
points in Houston. The state has offered to assist up to 5,000 evacuees.

But they didn't come.

Late Tuesday afternoon, Iowa officials spoke with Federal Emergency
Management Agency officials who said they were having a hard time getting
people to leave the evacuation zones in Houston.

"People don't necessarily want to move," Gov. Tom Vilsack told reporters
Tuesday evening. "They are tired. They are frustrated. They want to stay
where they are. So, we're going to give them a breather, and we are going to
see where we are (today)."

Vilsack said evacuees still may come. He and other governors will
participate in a conference call with U.S. Homeland Security Secretary
Michael Chertoff and learn more about the evacuation plans.

"We stand ready and prepared if the call should come," Vilsack said.

It's not just Iowa. Evacuees have rejected accommodations on cruise ships,
for example.

"The folks in Texas are having some difficulty encouraging folks to get on
airplanes and travel to other locations. It's understandable. These people
have been through a lot," Vilsack said. "This is a day-by-day, hour-by-hour
situation."

State officials waited by the phone all day. They had expected a call from
the federal government that evacuees were on their way early Tuesday, state
officials said. It never came.

Nevertheless, Iowa stands ready. The Varied Industries Building at the
fairgrounds has been turned into the main hub for evacuees, who would then
be moved into hotels and homes around the community.
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--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 7th 05, 04:24 PM
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Glad to hear they are where they'd rather be.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

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Old September 7th 05, 05:00 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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We booked our first refugees at the Inn yesterday --


Ya gotta watch more CNN, Jay.

The African-American leaders and the US government are very adamant about
NOT calling the displaced persons as "refugees", but insist on "evacuee", or
some such word.

They seem to feel that "refugee" somehow diminishes the status of these
people.

I am wondering, however, that if that is so, then why is it okay to call the
Sri Lankan, Thai (and other displacements of natural and man-made disasters)
as "refugees"?

Does that not diminish *their* status?






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Old September 7th 05, 05:24 PM
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"Icebound" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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We booked our first refugees at the Inn yesterday --


Ya gotta watch more CNN, Jay.

The African-American leaders and the US government are very adamant about
NOT calling the displaced persons as "refugees", but insist on "evacuee",
or some such word.

They seem to feel that "refugee" somehow diminishes the status of these
people.

I am wondering, however, that if that is so, then why is it okay to call
the Sri Lankan, Thai (and other displacements of natural and man-made
disasters) as "refugees"?

Does that not diminish *their* status?


Merriam-Webster: "refugee: one that flees; especially: a person who flees to
a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution". What's being
objected to is the connotation of having fled from a foreign country;
obviously, that connotation is not objectionable in situations where people
really do flee internationally.

I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.

--Gary


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Old September 7th 05, 08:26 PM
Icebound
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Merriam-Webster: "refugee: one that flees; especially: a person who flees
to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution". What's
being objected to is the connotation of having fled from a foreign
country; obviously, that connotation is not objectionable in situations
where people really do flee internationally.


World Book: A person who flees for refuge or safety in time of war,
persecution, or disaster.

(no mention of country)


I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


....which makes it all the more peculiar that the President and the Black
leaders would obsess so... and they are *extremely* adamant about it, too.
:-? This is but one of hundreds of articles about the issue:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000056047

Anyway, I just didn't want Jay to get in trouble with the language police,
so, having completed the mission: end of refugee-semantics sub-thread
hopefully :-)



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Old September 8th 05, 04:45 AM
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"Icebound" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Merriam-Webster: "refugee: one that flees; especially: a person who

flees
to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution". What's
being objected to is the connotation of having fled from a foreign
country; obviously, that connotation is not objectionable in situations
where people really do flee internationally.


World Book: A person who flees for refuge or safety in time of war,
persecution, or disaster.

(no mention of country)


I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


...which makes it all the more peculiar that the President and the Black
leaders would obsess so... and they are *extremely* adamant about it, too.
:-? This is but one of hundreds of articles about the issue:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000056047

Anyway, I just didn't want Jay to get in trouble with the language police,
so, having completed the mission: end of refugee-semantics sub-thread
hopefully :-)


With the "leaders" sitting around deciding what words to use it is not
surprising nothing got done for days after the hurricane hit.


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Old September 8th 05, 05:06 PM
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They can be adamant all they want. Refugee is the terminology *I* am
using It's accurate.

Dave

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Old September 7th 05, 11:47 PM
Jay Honeck
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I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


Sometimes it seems like we couldn't make this kind of stuff up if we tried!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 8th 05, 12:25 PM
gregg
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


Sometimes it seems like we couldn't make this kind of stuff up if we
tried!

;-)



I paraphrase (heavily) from a patrick O'Brian Book:

They have a suffused constant indignance which, if there was nothing to
warrant it at present, they were sure something would come along.


--
Saville

Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html

Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm

Steambending FAQ with photos:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm

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Old September 8th 05, 04:17 AM
Darrel Toepfer
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Merriam-Webster: "refugee: one that flees; especially: a person who flees to
a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution". What's being
objected to is the connotation of having fled from a foreign country;
obviously, that connotation is not objectionable in situations where people
really do flee internationally.

I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


You gotta remember, alot went to Texas as the article mentioned,
"Texas, its like a whole other country." The fact that they distributed
$2k debit cards to those in the Astrodome, I'm sure kinda made them want
to stay put...
 




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