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Mountain High Oxygen is now selling a low cost oximeter ($199):
http://mountainhighoxygen.com/index....product_id=424 At this price, anyone that flies with oxygen ought to get one, and be sure their oxygen system is actually doing the job. Besides the low cost, it's LCD display gives it a much longer battery life and better sunlight visibility than the similar (but LED display) Flightstat units. I prefer my Minolta Pulsox-3 because it's easier to use continuously, but it's pricey at $500. I've learned a couple things from my oximeter: 12,500' may be the legal height to start using oxygen, but 10-11,000' is smarter for me, and I need to breath a little more deeply than usual, or talk more on the radio (talking to someone tends to force deeper, quicker breathing, which improves oxygen saturation). -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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I have these here too
tim Wings & Wheels www.wingsandwheels.com "Eric Greenwell" wrote in message ... Mountain High Oxygen is now selling a low cost oximeter ($199): http://mountainhighoxygen.com/index....product_id=424 At this price, anyone that flies with oxygen ought to get one, and be sure their oxygen system is actually doing the job. Besides the low cost, it's LCD display gives it a much longer battery life and better sunlight visibility than the similar (but LED display) Flightstat units. I prefer my Minolta Pulsox-3 because it's easier to use continuously, but it's pricey at $500. I've learned a couple things from my oximeter: 12,500' may be the legal height to start using oxygen, but 10-11,000' is smarter for me, and I need to breath a little more deeply than usual, or talk more on the radio (talking to someone tends to force deeper, quicker breathing, which improves oxygen saturation). -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Tim Mara wrote:
I have these here too tim Wings & Wheels www.wingsandwheels.com Don't be bashful about promoting these to any pilot that orders anything remotely resembling oxygen related equipment. $200 for a unit with 1000 hour battery operation is amazing. "Eric Greenwell" wrote in message ... Mountain High Oxygen is now selling a low cost oximeter ($199): http://mountainhighoxygen.com/index....product_id=424 At this price, anyone that flies with oxygen ought to get one, and be sure their oxygen system is actually doing the job. Besides the low cost, it's LCD display gives it a much longer battery life and better sunlight visibility than the similar (but LED display) Flightstat units. I prefer my Minolta Pulsox-3 because it's easier to use continuously, but it's pricey at $500. I've learned a couple things from my oximeter: 12,500' may be the legal height to start using oxygen, but 10-11,000' is smarter for me, and I need to breath a little more deeply than usual, or talk more on the radio (talking to someone tends to force deeper, quicker breathing, which improves oxygen saturation). -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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At the risk of being being slammed for being "commercial," we have the new
low cost, CheckMate oximeters too. Several years ago, it was suggested I should try one of these on a flight in Texas. Only 8,500 MSL, I discovered my O2 level went down significantly. As your O2 level decreases, I am told the first thing that goes is you judgment, and it is not necessarily noticeable. All pilots, and especially those of us in advancing years should at least borrow one of these devices and check your levels yourself. Once you do, you will probably turn the oxygen system on much earlier. A soaring club could buy one of these new low-cost devices and pass it around for the members to test themselves. Tom Knauff Knauff & Grove, Soaring Supplies www.eglider.org You are invited to sign up for our free newsletter. |
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Thomas Knauff wrote:
At the risk of being being slammed for being "commercial," we have the new low cost, CheckMate oximeters too. I surely hope not for promotion of safety equipment, even if it's initiated by the dealer. Several years ago, it was suggested I should try one of these on a flight in Texas. Only 8,500 MSL, I discovered my O2 level went down significantly. As your O2 level decreases, I am told the first thing that goes is you judgment, and it is not necessarily noticeable. All pilots, and especially those of us in advancing years should at least borrow one of these devices and check your levels yourself. Once you do, you will probably turn the oxygen system on much earlier. I think there are a lot of us that took chamber rides years ago, did well in them, and still think we are the in-shape 30 year old guys we were then. If you haven't had a chamber ride, or it's been "a while", I think Tom's advice is great. It's not just age, but technique: maybe you are using a cannula, but breathing through your mouth some of the time (especially a problem at higher altitudes, the reason the FAA requires a mask above 18,000'). Also, your oxygen system may not be operating correctly. The oximeter gives you the result of all this in a number that matters. A soaring club could buy one of these new low-cost devices and pass it around for the members to test themselves. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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![]() "Thomas Knauff" wrote in message hlink.net... At the risk of being being slammed for being "commercial," we have the new low cost, CheckMate oximeters too. Several years ago, it was suggested I should try one of these on a flight in Texas. Only 8,500 MSL, I discovered my O2 level went down significantly. As your O2 level decreases, I am told the first thing that goes is you judgment, and it is not necessarily noticeable. All pilots, and especially those of us in advancing years should at least borrow one of these devices and check your levels yourself. Once you do, you will probably turn the oxygen system on much earlier. A soaring club could buy one of these new low-cost devices and pass it around for the members to test themselves. Tom Knauff Knauff & Grove, Soaring Supplies www.eglider.org You are invited to sign up for our free newsletter. I'm with Tom Knauff - get an oximeter and use it. Doing so has convinced me that, since O2 refills are cheap and the MH oxygen systems will stretch the supply far longer than any flight, I might as well use O2 from the ground up using the 'N' setting. Maybe this story will help. I had an older pilot as a student who had many flying hours from decades past, but did not have a US glider license. My job was to train him for the practical test. The only adjective I can use is that his flying was 'goofy'. While he clearly understood what I wanted him to do, he could not perform to standards. Finally, suspecting hypoxia, I had him wear my pulse oximeter. His SpO2 was at 85% at 7000 feet ASL. He then confided in me that, as a child, he had suffered a lung infection that had left him a bit 'short of breath' but that he had never considered this very important. I persuaded him to buy a Mountain High portable system with a small aluminum bottle that he could wear around his neck. With O2, his flying instantly improved to the point he got his US license. Bill Daniels My only connection with MH Oxygen is as a satisfied customer. |
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Bill Daniels wrote:
The only adjective I can use is that his flying was 'goofy'. While he clearly understood what I wanted him to do, he could not perform to standards. Finally, suspecting hypoxia, I had him wear my pulse oximeter. His SpO2 was at 85% at 7000 feet ASL. He then confided in me that, as a child, he had suffered a lung infection that had left him a bit 'short of breath' but that he had never considered this very important. I persuaded him to buy a Mountain High portable system with a small aluminum bottle that he could wear around his neck. With O2, his flying instantly improved to the point he got his US license. He's not the only one. Pat McLaughlin of Mountain High told me when they first began selling oximeters years ago, they got calls from a few customers saying the oximeters read too low, even on the ground (like in Florida). After having some oximeters returned that checked out properly, Pat had these pilots get themselves to doctors for pulmonary tests, which confirmed what the oximeters had reported. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Bill Daniels wrote:
I'm with Tom Knauff - get an oximeter and use it. Doing so has convinced me that, since O2 refills are cheap and the MH oxygen systems will stretch the supply far longer than any flight, I might as well use O2 from the ground up using the 'N' setting. Well, yes... but then, I don't need an oxymeter to do this. (It would nicely control the function of the oxygen system, though.) In our club, we typically fly somwhere between 6000 and 8000 feet for several hours. We have equipped all our club gliders with the MH EDS system and are using it from the ground up in each flight. We agree that we just fly better since, not to mention we are less tired in the evening and lack completely any headache the day after. I think this result tells more than any oxymeter. Stefan |
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![]() "Stefan" wrote in message ... Bill Daniels wrote: I'm with Tom Knauff - get an oximeter and use it. Doing so has convinced me that, since O2 refills are cheap and the MH oxygen systems will stretch the supply far longer than any flight, I might as well use O2 from the ground up using the 'N' setting. Well, yes... but then, I don't need an oxymeter to do this. (It would nicely control the function of the oxygen system, though.) In our club, we typically fly somwhere between 6000 and 8000 feet for several hours. We have equipped all our club gliders with the MH EDS system and are using it from the ground up in each flight. We agree that we just fly better since, not to mention we are less tired in the evening and lack completely any headache the day after. I think this result tells more than any oxymeter. Stefan The oximeter tells you things like the cannula is out of place or your breathing needs to be deeper. Yes, I know the MH system will beep if it doesn't sense your breathing but I have found that it can still sense breathing while most of the O2 escapes inhalation as when mouth breathing. Bill Daniels |
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