AOPA Propaganda, cont.

AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number, have
spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and against
allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come from
interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and hear
firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number, have
spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and against
allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come from
interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and hear
firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.

Truth squad: Turn "Skyloon" over to HSA and let HIM deal with all the
crap that they are trying to foist upon us!

by Orval Fairbairn Nov 10, 2005 at 08:27 PM


In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number,
have
spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and
against
allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come
from
interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their
comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and
hear
firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.

Truth squad: Turn "Skyloon" over to HSA and let HIM deal with all the
crap that they are trying to foist upon us!


You'd really want me to be at the HSA?! I would put an ADIZ over Ft.
Lauderdale, Miami, Boston, Chicago, etc. I would exempt light GA. I
would not exempt biz jets, turbo props, and old red Johnsons.

"Skylune" wrote

You'd really want me to be at the HSA?! I would put an ADIZ over Ft.
Lauderdale, Miami, Boston, Chicago, etc. I would exempt light GA. I
would not exempt biz jets, turbo props, and old red Johnsons.

Great, now all you have to do is come up with a way to determine the
difference between a King Air and a Seneca on radar when they are both
squawking 1200 so you know when to scramble the interceptors.

There's nothing wrong considering such an idea . . .
And I'll bet that within minutes, given a lot of feedback,
some pretty good ideas could be devised to do such a thing.

Not that I support that . . .but I'll bet you could.
After all, I can download ring tones and talk to China while
crapping in the woods with a bear on a barren island while
trees are falling and nobody is there to hear them fall . . .

Skylune wrote:

by Orval Fairbairn Nov 10, 2005 at 08:27 PM



In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:


AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number,

have

spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and

against

allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come

from

interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their

comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and

hear

firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.


Truth squad: Turn "Skyloon" over to HSA and let HIM deal with all the
crap that they are trying to foist upon us!


You'd really want me to be at the HSA?! I would put an ADIZ over Ft.
Lauderdale, Miami, Boston, Chicago, etc. I would exempt light GA. I
would not exempt biz jets, turbo props, and old red Johnsons.





But first teach him how to use a newsreader so that the previous post
has quote marks so you can tell when he/she wrote from what was written
previously.


Matt

by Matt Whiting Nov 13, 2005 at 01:44 AM


Skylune wrote:

by Orval Fairbairn Nov 10, 2005 at 08:27
PM



In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:


AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number,

have

spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and

against

allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come

from

interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their

comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and

hear

firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.


Truth squad: Turn "Skyloon" over to HSA and let HIM deal with all the
crap that they are trying to foist upon us!


You'd really want me to be at the HSA?! I would put an ADIZ over Ft.
Lauderdale, Miami, Boston, Chicago, etc. I would exempt light GA. I
would not exempt biz jets, turbo props, and old red Johnsons.





But first teach him how to use a newsreader so that the previous post
has quote marks so you can tell when he/she wrote from what was written
previously.

I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing that
ALGORE invented.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing that
ALGORE invented.

Sure. Right. You are so technically advanced and everyone else is
backward. You go out of your way to insure that your point of view can be
ignored and ridiculed. That doesn't appear to be a very successful, or
smart, strategy.

I am trying really hard to get a "news reader." The problem is that the
local antiques dealer doesn't have anymore of the appropriate vacuum tubes
to power the damned thing! Oh well, I'll have to stick to the thing that
ALGORE invented.

If you are running Windows 98 or XP, you already have an excellent (and
real) newsreader, called "Outlook Express".

It's also an excellent email program, and costs precisely...nothing, since
it comes bundled with Windows. It'll sure make reading your posts easier.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Truth squad: It is not a plebiscite so it matters not how manner folks
comment. The government by statute is seeking alternatives that they
might not have considered.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
AOPA said: "Already more than 18,550 pilots, an unprecedented number,
have
spoken out against making the ADIZ permanent around Washington and
against
allowing ADIZs to metastasize to other Class B airspace."

Truth squad: The overwhelming majority of comments do seem to come
from
interested parties. Not all come from pilots.

AOPA: "Pilots now have until February 6, 2006, to file their
comments."

Truth squad: True. So does every other citizen.


AOPA:

"... they (Dept of Defense, HSA) need to look pilots in the eye and
hear
firsthand what their decisions are doing to general aviation."


Truth squad: No they don't.