New gun

New super-gun to be tested in Feb
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By PAMELA HESS
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new high-explosive munition
will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the U.S. Army,
heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun that can fire
240,000 rounds per minute.

That's compared to 60 rounds per minute in a standard military machine
gun.

Metal Storm Inc., a munitions company headquartered in Virginia but
with its roots in Australia, has been developing a gun that can shoot
at blistering speeds, albeit in short bursts as each barrel is
reloaded.

A Metal Storm gun of any size -- from a 9 mm hand-gun up to a machine
gun size or a grenade launcher -- has no moving parts other than the
bullets or munition inside the barrel. Rather than chambering a single
slug for each shot - very quickly in the case of machine guns -- the
bullets come pre-stacked inside the barrel and can be shot all at
once, or one at a time, as the shooter decides through the electronic
controls.

Because there are no moving parts, the weapon is less likely to jam,
and will presumably need less maintenance.

Lashing many barrels together increases the number of rounds per
second. Once fired, however, each spent barrel has to be reloaded.

Starting in 2006 the company will demonstrate its prototypes with
applicability that is especially likely to interest the U.S. military.
The weapon system can be mounted on an unmanned ground combat vehicle,
an unmanned aerial vehicle, and might be used as a defense against
rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

Metal Storm's speed allows it to lay down a blinding wall of slugs
that can intercept and pulverize incoming enemy fire, according to
company CEO David Smith. As long as the grenade or mortar is fired
from outside a range of about 50 meters or 162.5 feet and a Doppler
radar is in use, a Metal Storm system could be an effective defense,
he told UPI.

Closer than that and there is just not time to react.

"But if you are from 50 meters and beyond, if everything can work fast
enough -- the radar -- there is enough time mathematically" to shoot
down incoming fire, Smith said.

At least 153 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq by enemy rockets and
mortars since the start of the war. Nearly 2,000 have been wounded.

The grenade launcher barrel can also carry less-than-lethal munitions,
like small bean bags, sponge grenades or smoke. On Jan. 16, the Army
awarded Metal Storm a $975,000 contract to further develop its
non-lethal rounds.

"Our so-called competition is (the) Mk19 - grenade machine gun," Smith
said. "It's enormously heavy. It takes six people to carry it into a
battlefield scene. It's not mobile.

"But the military has had this transition out of big system
warfighting into much lighter, higher firepower that can be carried
into battle by individuals or light vehicles. Our guns have no moving
parts -- so they have the same amount of fire power at significantly
reduced weight ratio."

Metal Storm technology has been under development for about a decade,
but a series of small-business innovative research contracts awarded
recently by the Department of Energy and the Army mean prototypes are
now being produced and demonstrated.

"We are to the point we can start providing prototypes. The Army is
very, very parochial in how they buy weapon systems," Smith said. "But
now we can put it into an actual environment."

The company is also studying whether it can mount a Metal Storm weapon
on a small helicopter, particularly looking at the recoil effect from
the gun.

Smith said such a system - deployable down to the squad level -- could
be useful in a place like Iraq, where it's a common tactic for
insurgents to launch a mortar and then run. By the time soldiers on
foot or in a vehicle get to the launch site, the shooters are long
gone. But a UAV quickly launched can see where the shooters run to,
and if a gun is on board, can shoot at them.

The Australian military is testing a Metal Storm gun of its own, the
Advanced Individual Combat Weapon (AICW). The AICW combines both an
assault rifle and a 40 mm grenade launcher in a single unit with a
common trigger, allowing the shooter to choose which munition he wants
to fire without having to refit his weapon. It also allows three
grenades to be fired at once, whereas one is the only option in the
current generation of weapons.

Metal Storm Inc. will demonstrate a high-explosive munition with a
10-meter (32.5 feet) or burst radius in Singapore on Feb. 6, Smith
said, and for the Army's Picatinny Arsenal and Armament Research,
Development and Engineering Center later that month.



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Metal Storm Intro
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhabrr

Metal Storm Pistol
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhabfr

Metal Storm UAV
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhabl4

Metal Storm Area Denial
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhabv8

Metal Storm Aircraft Pod
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhac11

Metal Storm Robotic Grenade Launcher
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=mhac76

The Monk

that concept was originally conceived by Leonardo Da Vinci.

A standard machine gun fires 450-1200 rounds per minute, 600
rpm being a "normal" average. A minigun is a modern Gatling
multibarreled weapon and can fire 4000-6000 rpm (100 per
second) and reloads each barrel as soon as it is fired.

The rate of fire for a period of a fraction of a second is
not all that important, what is the rate of fire for a
period of 5 seconds, 10 minutes?

A shotgun firing one shell with 300 pellets in the load is
firing about 1,800,000 pellets per minute.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Big John" wrote in message
...
| New super-gun to be tested in Feb
|
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````
|
| By PAMELA HESS
| UPI Pentagon Correspondent
|
| WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new
high-explosive munition
| will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the
U.S. Army,
| heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun that
can fire
| 240,000 rounds per minute.
|
| That's compared to 60 rounds per minute in a standard
military machine
| gun.
|
| Metal Storm Inc., a munitions company headquartered in
Virginia but
| with its roots in Australia, has been developing a gun
that can shoot
| at blistering speeds, albeit in short bursts as each
barrel is
| reloaded.
|
| A Metal Storm gun of any size -- from a 9 mm hand-gun up
to a machine
| gun size or a grenade launcher -- has no moving parts
other than the
| bullets or munition inside the barrel. Rather than
chambering a single
| slug for each shot - very quickly in the case of machine
guns -- the
| bullets come pre-stacked inside the barrel and can be shot
all at
| once, or one at a time, as the shooter decides through the
electronic
| controls.
|
| Because there are no moving parts, the weapon is less
likely to jam,
| and will presumably need less maintenance.
|
| Lashing many barrels together increases the number of
rounds per
| second. Once fired, however, each spent barrel has to be
reloaded.
|
| Starting in 2006 the company will demonstrate its
prototypes with
| applicability that is especially likely to interest the
U.S. military.
| The weapon system can be mounted on an unmanned ground
combat vehicle,
| an unmanned aerial vehicle, and might be used as a defense
against
| rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.
|
| Metal Storm's speed allows it to lay down a blinding wall
of slugs
| that can intercept and pulverize incoming enemy fire,
according to
| company CEO David Smith. As long as the grenade or mortar
is fired
| from outside a range of about 50 meters or 162.5 feet and
a Doppler
| radar is in use, a Metal Storm system could be an
effective defense,
| he told UPI.
|
| Closer than that and there is just not time to react.
|
| "But if you are from 50 meters and beyond, if everything
can work fast
| enough -- the radar -- there is enough time
mathematically" to shoot
| down incoming fire, Smith said.
|
| At least 153 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq by enemy
rockets and
| mortars since the start of the war. Nearly 2,000 have been
wounded.
|
| The grenade launcher barrel can also carry
less-than-lethal munitions,
| like small bean bags, sponge grenades or smoke. On Jan.
16, the Army
| awarded Metal Storm a $975,000 contract to further develop
its
| non-lethal rounds.
|
| "Our so-called competition is (the) Mk19 - grenade machine
gun," Smith
| said. "It's enormously heavy. It takes six people to carry
it into a
| battlefield scene. It's not mobile.
|
| "But the military has had this transition out of big
system
| warfighting into much lighter, higher firepower that can
be carried
| into battle by individuals or light vehicles. Our guns
have no moving
| parts -- so they have the same amount of fire power at
significantly
| reduced weight ratio."
|
| Metal Storm technology has been under development for
about a decade,
| but a series of small-business innovative research
contracts awarded
| recently by the Department of Energy and the Army mean
prototypes are
| now being produced and demonstrated.
|
| "We are to the point we can start providing prototypes.
The Army is
| very, very parochial in how they buy weapon systems,"
Smith said. "But
| now we can put it into an actual environment."
|
| The company is also studying whether it can mount a Metal
Storm weapon
| on a small helicopter, particularly looking at the recoil
effect from
| the gun.
|
| Smith said such a system - deployable down to the squad
level -- could
| be useful in a place like Iraq, where it's a common tactic
for
| insurgents to launch a mortar and then run. By the time
soldiers on
| foot or in a vehicle get to the launch site, the shooters
are long
| gone. But a UAV quickly launched can see where the
shooters run to,
| and if a gun is on board, can shoot at them.
|
| The Australian military is testing a Metal Storm gun of
its own, the
| Advanced Individual Combat Weapon (AICW). The AICW
combines both an
| assault rifle and a 40 mm grenade launcher in a single
unit with a
| common trigger, allowing the shooter to choose which
munition he wants
| to fire without having to refit his weapon. It also allows
three
| grenades to be fired at once, whereas one is the only
option in the
| current generation of weapons.
|
| Metal Storm Inc. will demonstrate a high-explosive
munition with a
| 10-meter (32.5 feet) or burst radius in Singapore on Feb.
6, Smith
| said, and for the Army's Picatinny Arsenal and Armament
Research,
| Development and Engineering Center later that month.
|
|
|
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| Rights Reserved
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| Analysis: U.N. says Ivory Coast calm
|
| By WILLIAM M. REILLY
| UPI U.N. Correspondent
| 1/21/2006 7:17:00 PM -0500
| The United Nations says four days of violent,
orchestrated,
| demonstrations in Ivory Coast against the world
organization and its
| peacekeepers appear to ...
|
|
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And this relates to recreational flying how??








"Big John" wrote in message
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New super-gun to be tested in Feb
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By PAMELA HESS
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new high-explosive munition
will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the U.S. Army,
heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun that can fire
240,000 rounds per minute.
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For the homebuilt P47 replica???



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"g n p" wrote in message
news:1138017785.992067@athnrd02...
| And this relates to recreational flying how??
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Big John" wrote in message
| ...
|
| New super-gun to be tested in Feb
|
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````
|
| By PAMELA HESS
| UPI Pentagon Correspondent
|
| WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new
high-explosive munition
| will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the
U.S. Army,
| heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun
that can fire
| 240,000 rounds per minute.
|
.................................................. ........................................
|
|

The chain gun on an A-10 Thunderbolt (aka Warthog) files about 3900
rounds per minute. Another way to say it: $24,375 per second of
depleted uranium rounds. But don't hold the trigger for more than 18
seconds because the barrel will melt.


Big John wrote:
New super-gun to be tested in Feb
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````

By PAMELA HESS
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new high-explosive munition
will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the U.S. Army,
heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun that can fire
240,000 rounds per minute.

That's compared to 60 rounds per minute in a standard military machine
gun.

Metal Storm Inc., a munitions company headquartered in Virginia but
with its roots in Australia, has been developing a gun that can shoot
at blistering speeds, albeit in short bursts as each barrel is
reloaded.

A Metal Storm gun of any size -- from a 9 mm hand-gun up to a machine
gun size or a grenade launcher -- has no moving parts other than the
bullets or munition inside the barrel. Rather than chambering a single
slug for each shot - very quickly in the case of machine guns -- the
bullets come pre-stacked inside the barrel and can be shot all at
once, or one at a time, as the shooter decides through the electronic
controls.

Because there are no moving parts, the weapon is less likely to jam,
and will presumably need less maintenance.

Lashing many barrels together increases the number of rounds per
second. Once fired, however, each spent barrel has to be reloaded.

Starting in 2006 the company will demonstrate its prototypes with
applicability that is especially likely to interest the U.S. military.
The weapon system can be mounted on an unmanned ground combat vehicle,
an unmanned aerial vehicle, and might be used as a defense against
rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

Metal Storm's speed allows it to lay down a blinding wall of slugs
that can intercept and pulverize incoming enemy fire, according to
company CEO David Smith. As long as the grenade or mortar is fired
from outside a range of about 50 meters or 162.5 feet and a Doppler
radar is in use, a Metal Storm system could be an effective defense,
he told UPI.

Closer than that and there is just not time to react.

"But if you are from 50 meters and beyond, if everything can work fast
enough -- the radar -- there is enough time mathematically" to shoot
down incoming fire, Smith said.

At least 153 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq by enemy rockets and
mortars since the start of the war. Nearly 2,000 have been wounded.

The grenade launcher barrel can also carry less-than-lethal munitions,
like small bean bags, sponge grenades or smoke. On Jan. 16, the Army
awarded Metal Storm a $975,000 contract to further develop its
non-lethal rounds.

"Our so-called competition is (the) Mk19 - grenade machine gun," Smith
said. "It's enormously heavy. It takes six people to carry it into a
battlefield scene. It's not mobile.

"But the military has had this transition out of big system
warfighting into much lighter, higher firepower that can be carried
into battle by individuals or light vehicles. Our guns have no moving
parts -- so they have the same amount of fire power at significantly
reduced weight ratio."

Metal Storm technology has been under development for about a decade,
but a series of small-business innovative research contracts awarded
recently by the Department of Energy and the Army mean prototypes are
now being produced and demonstrated.

"We are to the point we can start providing prototypes. The Army is
very, very parochial in how they buy weapon systems," Smith said. "But
now we can put it into an actual environment."

The company is also studying whether it can mount a Metal Storm weapon
on a small helicopter, particularly looking at the recoil effect from
the gun.

Smith said such a system - deployable down to the squad level -- could
be useful in a place like Iraq, where it's a common tactic for
insurgents to launch a mortar and then run. By the time soldiers on
foot or in a vehicle get to the launch site, the shooters are long
gone. But a UAV quickly launched can see where the shooters run to,
and if a gun is on board, can shoot at them.

The Australian military is testing a Metal Storm gun of its own, the
Advanced Individual Combat Weapon (AICW). The AICW combines both an
assault rifle and a 40 mm grenade launcher in a single unit with a
common trigger, allowing the shooter to choose which munition he wants
to fire without having to refit his weapon. It also allows three
grenades to be fired at once, whereas one is the only option in the
current generation of weapons.

Metal Storm Inc. will demonstrate a high-explosive munition with a
10-meter (32.5 feet) or burst radius in Singapore on Feb. 6, Smith
said, and for the Army's Picatinny Arsenal and Armament Research,
Development and Engineering Center later that month.



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By WILLIAM M. REILLY
UPI U.N. Correspondent
1/21/2006 7:17:00 PM -0500
The United Nations says four days of violent, orchestrated,
demonstrations in Ivory Coast against the world organization and its
peacekeepers appear to ...


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Jim Macklin wrote:
A standard machine gun fires 450-1200 rounds per minute, 600
rpm being a "normal" average. A minigun is a modern Gatling
multibarreled weapon and can fire 4000-6000 rpm (100 per
second) and reloads each barrel as soon as it is fired.

The rate of fire for a period of a fraction of a second is
not all that important, what is the rate of fire for a
period of 5 seconds, 10 minutes?

A shotgun firing one shell with 300 pellets in the load is
firing about 1,800,000 pellets per minute.

--

Exactly what I was thinking. It is as good as a shotgun huh?

The Monk

It is a time function, shorter time increases rates. A true
rapid fire weapon, such as the robot Phalanx cannon used by
the Navy to protect the ship, works very well as a wall of
iron. The Claymore mine puts out a wall of steel, too.

This "new" gun sounds like a Roman candle that shoots lead.

BTW, California has recently banned 50 caliber rifles.
Barrett has a new .416 Barrett, probably based on the 50 BMG
case, gee I want one.

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| A standard machine gun fires 450-1200 rounds per minute,
600
| rpm being a "normal" average. A minigun is a modern
Gatling
| multibarreled weapon and can fire 4000-6000 rpm (100 per
| second) and reloads each barrel as soon as it is fired.
|
| The rate of fire for a period of a fraction of a second
is
| not all that important, what is the rate of fire for a
| period of 5 seconds, 10 minutes?
|
| A shotgun firing one shell with 300 pellets in the load
is
| firing about 1,800,000 pellets per minute.
|
| --
|
| Exactly what I was thinking. It is as good as a shotgun
huh?
|
| The Monk
|

g n p (Gross National Product?)

The weapons (30cal, 50cal, 20mm, 2.75" FFAR, 5" HVAR, MB-1) I used
when flying Fighters, all required tracking of the target. This
system, as described, would let you sweep through the target (without
tracking) and decimate it in one short burst.

It is possible in the future that GA could be tasked to defend the US
and a light weight gun of this type would make up for lack of GA pilot
training.

In any event, I thought it was an interesting technical article that
GA pilots would be interested in (something different than the $100
hamburger).

Big John
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:03:08 +0200, "g n p"
wrote:

And this relates to recreational flying how??








"Big John" wrote in message
.. .

New super-gun to be tested in Feb
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````

By PAMELA HESS
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Jan. 20 (UPI) -- Next month a new high-explosive munition
will be fired in Singapore and then tested again by the U.S. Army,
heralding what may be a sea change in weaponry: a gun that can fire
240,000 rounds per minute.
................................................. ........................................