Amnesty for illegal immigrants will not happen this time.....................

Our politicians lead the league in all talk, no action.
Is blowing us some sunshine good enough?
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On 31 Mar 2006 04:48:52 GMT, (Expert Humor)
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Our politicians lead the league in all talk, no action.

I wish the politicians were talking about how many of the 12 million
people currently in this country illegally have jobs, and how many of
those pay Social Security and Workers Compensation. Those
undocumented workers who have legitimate employment with the usual
deductions being made from their paychecks should be fined for illegal
entry and made to seek and secure naturalized US citizenship and the
ability to speak English; those unable to prove they are employed and
paying into Social Security and Workers Comp. need to be deported
along with their offspring.

While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

Jose
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Jose asked:
While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

I believe the children are only citizens if they are BORN in the US. I
don't think very many countries have that particular law.

I'm also not sure that "fault" applies.

The illegal immigrants, the people who hire them, and the various
governments have all allowed this mess to be created. It'll be
interesting to see how it works out.

This is rec.aviation.piloting, so to keep it in-field:
How many of the illegal immigrants come by small aircraft??

This is rec.aviation.piloting, so to keep it in-field:
How many of the illegal immigrants come by small aircraft??

.... and how many children of illegal immigrants will learn to pilot
them, fuel them, or service them?

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writes:

Jose asked:
While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

I believe the children are only citizens if they are BORN in the US. I
don't think very many countries have that particular law.

I'm also not sure that "fault" applies.

One case I don't want to create, which has existed in Switzerland and
I think Germany and France (may have been fixed by EU action, my
experience with it is quite old), is where guest workers (from places
like Turkey) live their lives and raise their families in the country,
but their children have no legal right of residence there -- even
though they've rarely or never visited their "home" country, and in
some cases don't even speak the language. Possibly our approach goes
too far; and at the same time it *doesn't* cover children brought in
as infants and raised entirely here.

The illegal immigrants, the people who hire them, and the various
governments have all allowed this mess to be created. It'll be
interesting to see how it works out.

Yes, lots of contributors, definitely.

This is rec.aviation.piloting, so to keep it in-field:
How many of the illegal immigrants come by small aircraft??

I haven't heard that it's very many.
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:00 GMT, Jose
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While children of illegal aliens are currently considered to be US
citizens, perhaps it's time to amend the law (retroactively) to
exclude the children of those who cross the US border ILLEGALLY from
that right.

It's the children's fault?

If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust (with
the apparent exception of the Bush administration).

If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust

To punish innocents is unjust. The parents aren't being rewarded, the
children would be punished.

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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:28:23 GMT, Jose
wrote in : :

If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust

To punish innocents is unjust. The parents aren't being rewarded, the
children would be punished.

To profit from an illegal act is unjust.

The children wouldn't be punished; they'd be treated as though their
parents hadn't committed a crime by illegally crossing the US border.
To provide an incentive to illegally cross the US border is not very
intelligent.

"Jose" wrote in message
...
If the US immigration law hadn't been broken by the parents, their
children would have been born outside the US, and been ineligible for
immediate US citizenship. To reward criminal conduct is unjust

To punish innocents is unjust. The parents aren't being rewarded, the
children would be punished.

Jose


But I sort of doubt you'd say we should keep the child here and kick the
parents out.


But it would take a constitutional amendment to make the children born here
not citizens I doubt we could get it or any other amendment passed.