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To my Fellow Americans: Happy Independence Day!
Just think, if we hadn't won the war for independence from Great Britain, some 230 years ago, we all wouldn't be speaking Spanish today... :-) Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe some petty government official? Where else can one land at literally thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to see the sights, knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there when we return? For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it stays that way! Now go celebrate Independence Day -- by flying! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe some petty government official? Where else can one land at literally thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to see the sights, knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there when we return? Certainly have a happy Independence Day but you ask where else can you do these things? I can vouch personally that the UK, and New Zealand offer the same freedoms, and I am quite sure several more countries too! Cheers Quilly For four good books to read look at... http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm Buy three or four altogether and get economy postage. |
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At one time, back about 1911, the UK and its colonies were
reasonably free places. Today, possession of a pocket knife, a firearm or even a door lock that you won't open for police inspection will land you in the slammer. There is only one USA and one U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. "Quilljar" wrote in message ... | Jay Honeck wrote: | | Seriously, where else can a man hop in his own airplane, load it up | with car gas, and take his family for a 9 day flight around the Great | Lakes, without ever once being required to fill out paperwork or bribe | some petty government official? Where else can one land at literally | thousands of airfields, borrow a car, and head off to see the sights, | knowing full-well that the aircraft will still be there when we | return? | | Certainly have a happy Independence Day but you ask where else can you do | these things? I can vouch personally that the UK, and New Zealand offer the | same freedoms, and I am quite sure several more countries too! | | Cheers Quilly | | For four good books to read look at... | http://www.quilljar.btinternet.co.uk/covers.htm | Buy three or four altogether and get economy postage. | | |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:itwqg.60629$ZW3.8463@dukeread04... At one time, back about 1911, the UK and its colonies were reasonably free places. Today, possession of a pocket knife, a firearm or even a door lock that you won't open for police inspection will land you in the slammer. If you don't think that the US is headed in that direction, you have your eyes closed. The government's fear-mongering, and the US population's demand for "security at all costs" is driving us there at an alarming pace. It's not as though knives and guns in the US are uniformly allowed (never mind weapons with higher firepower), and digital privacy is the current front on which the US government is looking to require a "master key" provided to law enforcement. Once the government has carte blanche to eavesdrop on our conversations, it's only a matter of time before they also are given the power to enter your house at will. And by the way, if the police have a valid warrant, it is already a crime to not open a door lock for them. I'm amazed that you see a significant difference between the US and the other places you mention, with respect to the issues you mention. There is only one USA and one U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. The sooner we get back to using those documents, the better. |
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On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com:: For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it stays that way! How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process, spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ... ? Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. |
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Larry Dighera wrote: On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote in .com:: For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it stays that way! How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process, spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ... ? Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. false premise -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article , Larry Dighera wrote: On 4 Jul 2006 06:01:58 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote in .com:: For all its foibles, we Americans still live in the free-est country in history, and let's not ever forget it. Better yet, let's make sure it stays that way! How? By convicting the president of overstepping the power of his office and holding hundreds without benefit of judicial due process, spying on citizens' telephone conversations without a warrant as mandated by law, authorizing 1984esque 'sneak and peek' searches, ... ? Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. false premise And a false conclusion. Other than that, a very sound argument! :-) Matt |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 10:31:23 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in :: Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. false premise I know you're capable of communicating in complete sentences. If you've got something to say, say it. |
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote: Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. false premise If you've got something to say, say it. I did. You have a false premise. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article , Larry Dighera wrote: Enjoy your freedom while you can. It can't continue if the religious right stays in power. false premise If you've got something to say, say it. I did. You have a false premise. Bob, I think you need to explain to him what premise means. Matt |
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