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Old October 23rd 06, 10:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
cjcampbell
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

AVweb is reporting that a plane crashed in the DC ADIZ after ATC told
him that he had violated the ADIZ and ordered him to land at Tipton.
According to ATC tapes he asked for an in-flight IFR clearance, was
told he had violated the ADIZ and that he must land at Tipton, then he
crashed.

It will be interesting to see the accident report on this one, although
it might be hard to tell if he lost control of the plane because of
violating the ADIZ. I don't know if anyone would say if he was shot
down.

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Old October 23rd 06, 12:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Denny
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

Hopefully he crashed into the TRACON cab... Would seem fitting...

denny / k8do

cjcampbell wrote:
AVweb is reporting that a plane crashed in the DC ADIZ after ATC told
him that he had violated the ADIZ and ordered him to land at Tipton.
According to ATC tapes he asked for an in-flight IFR clearance, was
told he had violated the ADIZ and that he must land at Tipton, then he
crashed.

It will be interesting to see the accident report on this one, although
it might be hard to tell if he lost control of the plane because of
violating the ADIZ. I don't know if anyone would say if he was shot
down.


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Old October 23rd 06, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?


"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...

Hopefully he crashed into the TRACON cab... Would seem fitting...


Why?


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Old October 24th 06, 01:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hopefully he crashed into the TRACON cab... Would seem fitting...


Why?


There's no such thing as a Tracon cab here. Potomac
approach is twenty miles from the nearest control tower.
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Old October 23rd 06, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

It will be interesting to see the accident report on this one, although
it might be hard to tell if he lost control of the plane because of
violating the ADIZ. I don't know if anyone would say if he was shot
down.


This has been extensively discussed on the Cherokee Pilots
Association's "Cherokee Chat". You can hear the ATC exchange with
N9130N at the the liveatc.net archive:

http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php

Open the archive file for KBWI OCT 19 1930Z - it's about 12 minutes
into the mp3 file.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old October 23rd 06, 11:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

I don't see any evidence that he crashed. Is there a news report
somewhere or something?

-Robert


cjcampbell wrote:
AVweb is reporting that a plane crashed in the DC ADIZ after ATC told
him that he had violated the ADIZ and ordered him to land at Tipton.
According to ATC tapes he asked for an in-flight IFR clearance, was
told he had violated the ADIZ and that he must land at Tipton, then he
crashed.

It will be interesting to see the accident report on this one, although
it might be hard to tell if he lost control of the plane because of
violating the ADIZ. I don't know if anyone would say if he was shot
down.


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Old October 24th 06, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
cjcampbell
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?


Robert M. Gary wrote:
I don't see any evidence that he crashed. Is there a news report
somewhere or something?


I suppose AVweb is a news report. As I said, they were the ones
reporting it.

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Old October 24th 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
I don't see any evidence that he crashed. Is there a news report
somewhere or something?


http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi...6/10_23-33/TOP

--Gary

cjcampbell wrote:
AVweb is reporting that a plane crashed in the DC ADIZ after ATC told
him that he had violated the ADIZ and ordered him to land at Tipton.
According to ATC tapes he asked for an in-flight IFR clearance, was
told he had violated the ADIZ and that he must land at Tipton, then he
crashed.

It will be interesting to see the accident report on this one, although
it might be hard to tell if he lost control of the plane because of
violating the ADIZ. I don't know if anyone would say if he was shot
down.



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Old October 24th 06, 07:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
. ..
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
I don't see any evidence that he crashed. Is there a news report
somewhere or something?


http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi...6/10_23-33/TOP


I don't get it. That's a non-aviation publication, reporting on an aviation
event, and not only was it reasonably factual and noninflammatory, it even
managed to get in AOPA's position with respect to the ADIZ.

I didn't realize such a thing could be possible.


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Old October 25th 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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Default Plane crashed in DC ADIZ?

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:53:01 -0700, Peter Duniho wrote:

I didn't realize such a thing could be possible.


Yes, that is surprising. Also surprising is the lack of wider press
coverage. I suppose I'd expect something like the coverage of the plane
that just went down in NYC, considering the significance of the DC ADIZ.

- Andrew

 




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