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Old October 30th 06, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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Default What's up with Google???

3-4 times in the last week I've posted replies only to get the Oops!
message and that the page is unavailable (reply got wiped out). This
after a masterfully crafted & often witty response on my part which the
group was denied tongue-in-cheek mode off Seriously, is anyone else
seeing this? Most annoying...

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Old October 30th 06, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gpsman
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Kingfish wrote: brevity snip
3-4 times in the last week I've posted replies only to get the Oops!
message and that the page is unavailable (reply got wiped out).


Prolly not wiped out, just hit the "back" button (or Ctrl + L arrow).

Seriously, is anyone else seeing this? Most annoying...


Yes, and yes it is. I have to hit "Reply" and "Preview" twice, every
time, after getting the same message... and "Edit message" if used,
sometimes "Post" as well.

But, checking it now by hitting "Preview" and it works, first time.

You must have fixed it. Thanks.
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Old October 30th 06, 03:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Kingfish" wrote:
3-4 times in the last week I've posted replies only to get the Oops!
message and that the page is unavailable (reply got wiped out). This
after a masterfully crafted & often witty response on my part which the
group was denied tongue-in-cheek mode off Seriously, is anyone else
seeing this? Most annoying...


I don't think it's Google, I think it's Usenet, although I admittedly
don't know how it all works well enough to even guess what the problem
is. But I don't use Google for the groups except as a last resort, and
in almost 10 years of using Newswatcher to access/post to newsgroups
with *no* problems whatsoever, in the last week I've had similar error
messages and some down-time, too. ??
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Old October 30th 06, 06:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skywise
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unicate wrote in news:Xmnushal8y-3388F5.08453830102006
@news.phx.highwinds-media.com:

"Kingfish" wrote:
3-4 times in the last week I've posted replies only to get the Oops!
message and that the page is unavailable (reply got wiped out). This
after a masterfully crafted & often witty response on my part which the
group was denied tongue-in-cheek mode off Seriously, is anyone else
seeing this? Most annoying...


I don't think it's Google, I think it's Usenet, although I admittedly
don't know how it all works well enough to even guess what the problem
is.

Snipola

Google is nothing more than a web based front end for posting articles
on usenet. Usenet itself is totally independant. The problem described
is almost 100% surely Google's problem. Usenet does not have any means
of saying that a page is unavailable. In fact, there are no "pages" on
usenet to not be found in the first place.

I suggest a gander over to wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Towards the bottom is a sectionon web interfaces, including Google.

Brian
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Old October 30th 06, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Skywise wrote:
The problem described
is almost 100% surely Google's problem.


Well, it can't be "100% surely Google's problem" because I haven't
accessed these groups with Google in the past month or so, and
Newsreader, that was previously (10 years or so) 100% reliable has also
been giving me "can't access" errors sporatically in the last week.
Coincidence? I doubt it.
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Old October 30th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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wrote in message
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The problem described
is almost 100% surely Google's problem.


Well, it can't be "100% surely Google's problem" because I haven't
accessed these groups with Google in the past month or so, and
Newsreader, that was previously (10 years or so) 100% reliable has also
been giving me "can't access" errors sporatically in the last week.
Coincidence? I doubt it.


Doubt all you want. Google's troubles cannot possibly be related to your
own, if you are not using Google to post.

You are using Cox's news server to post to Usenet. If you get an error,
it's because your news reader (NewsWatcher on Mac OS X) failed to
communicate with the Cox news server.

On the other hand, someone having problems posting with Google is dealing
with some failure of their web browser to communicate with Google's web
servers.

In neither case are you directly connected to "Usenet". You are relying on
a third party to do that communication for you, and you would not ever see
errors that happened during that subsequent communication. The only errors
you might see are when your news client (news reader or browser) fails to
correctly interact with your news provider (Cox's servers or Google's
servers). And a problem with Cox's servers won't cause any sort of issue
with someone using Google's servers, no vice a versa.

Pete


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Old October 31st 06, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The problem described
is almost 100% surely Google's problem.


Xmnushal8y:
Well, it can't be "100% surely Google's problem" because I haven't
accessed these groups with Google in the past month or so, and
Newsreader, that was previously (10 years or so) 100% reliable has also
been giving me "can't access" errors sporatically in the last week.
Coincidence? I doubt it.


"Peter Duniho" wrote:
Doubt all you want. Google's troubles cannot possibly be related to your
own, if you are not using Google to post.


I didn't *say* my problem was related to Google's...just that whatever
the problem *is* accessing Usenet in this past week or so, it isn't
"surely 100% Google's problem" or the rest of us wouldn't be
experiencing the same thing using other methods of accessing Usenet.
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Old October 30th 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default What's up with Google???

3-4 times in the last week I've posted replies only to get the Oops!
message and that the page is unavailable (reply got wiped out). This
after a masterfully crafted & often witty response on my part which the
group was denied tongue-in-cheek mode off Seriously, is anyone else
seeing this?


Yep. Their little glitch has wiped out several of my most artful
responses...

:-(

I've taken to highlighting everything and "Control-C"-ing before
clicking on "Post Message", just in case everything gets sucked into
the Google ether...
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 30th 06, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Yep. Their little glitch has wiped out several of my most artful
responses...

:-(

I've taken to highlighting everything and "Control-C"-ing before
clicking on "Post Message", just in case everything gets sucked into
the Google ether...


Jay, considering what you give (well written aviation anecdotes) and take
(new hotel guests) out of Usenet, you should consider a commercial account.

Text-only, or download-limited accounts are available for US $2 to $4 per
month, which is one less beer a month (G), and certainly more reliable
than free Usenet providers, Google included.


--
Peter
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Old October 30th 06, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Peter R. wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:


Yep. Their little glitch has wiped out several of my most artful
responses...

:-(

I've taken to highlighting everything and "Control-C"-ing before
clicking on "Post Message", just in case everything gets sucked into
the Google ether...



Jay, considering what you give (well written aviation anecdotes) and take
(new hotel guests) out of Usenet, you should consider a commercial account.


I don't get it. Does Jay not have an ISP that provides him with an
email account? If so just use your email client to setup a newsgroup
account. What's so hard about that?


 




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