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Old November 3rd 06, 11:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kyle Boatright
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15542143/

"More than half of U.S. commercial airports don't have a 1,000-foot margin
at the end of a runway, an overrun area the federal government says is
needed as a safety zone, according to a new report."

"Part of the problem is that airports were built in congested urban areas
and have no room to lengthen their runways."

Repeat after me: "THE AIRPORT WAS THERE FIRST!!". Most airports were built
out in "the sticks" decades ago. In the ensuing decades, urban areas grew up
around the airports.

Too bad no contact address given so the story could be rebutted.

KB


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Old November 4th 06, 12:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
NW_Pilot
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15542143/

"More than half of U.S. commercial airports don't have a 1,000-foot margin
at the end of a runway, an overrun area the federal government says is
needed as a safety zone, according to a new report."

"Part of the problem is that airports were built in congested urban areas
and have no room to lengthen their runways."

Repeat after me: "THE AIRPORT WAS THERE FIRST!!". Most airports were built
out in "the sticks" decades ago. In the ensuing decades, urban areas grew
up around the airports.

Too bad no contact address given so the story could be rebutted.

KB



If anyone believes anything that the news media says they deserve to be lied
to!! Goverment media Skull Phuck!


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Old November 4th 06, 05:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15542143/

"More than half of U.S. commercial airports don't have a 1,000-foot margin
at the end of a runway, an overrun area the federal government says is
needed as a safety zone, according to a new report."

"Part of the problem is that airports were built in congested urban areas
and have no room to lengthen their runways."

Repeat after me: "THE AIRPORT WAS THERE FIRST!!". Most airports were built
out in "the sticks" decades ago. In the ensuing decades, urban areas grew up
around the airports.

Too bad no contact address given so the story could be rebutted.


Stop listening. The argument that "the airport was there first" has
long since been dead. Its been proven time and time again that it
doesn't make a difference. If you just want something to be ****ed
about, be my guest but history shows that its not a productive position
to take.
I'm park Osage, the "we were here first" arguement didn't work well
there either.

-Robert

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Old November 4th 06, 07:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Duniho
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
Stop listening. The argument that "the airport was there first" has
long since been dead. Its been proven time and time again that it
doesn't make a difference.


It may be true that the fact that the airport was there first does not give
the airport carte blanche to disregard its neighbors.

However, that doesn't mean that it's reasonable for the media to *falsely
claim* that "airports were built in congested urban areas".


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Old November 4th 06, 01:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The proper claim to be making is that the (insert local government)
failed to realize the importance of the airport to economic development.
In so doing they allowed incompatible land uses by means of bad planning
zoning to encroach upon the airport environs, compromising the saftey of
the very citizens they swore to protect by placing them directly in
harms way.
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Old November 4th 06, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article
,
john smith wrote:

The proper claim to be making is that the (insert local government)
failed to realize the importance of the airport to economic development.
In so doing they allowed incompatible land uses by means of bad planning
zoning to encroach upon the airport environs, compromising the saftey of
the very citizens they swore to protect by placing them directly in
harms way.


compromising safety?

--
Bob Noel
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lawyers will hate

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Old November 4th 06, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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In article ,
Bob Noel wrote:

In article
,
john smith wrote:

The proper claim to be making is that the (insert local government)
failed to realize the importance of the airport to economic development.
In so doing they allowed incompatible land uses by means of bad planning
zoning to encroach upon the airport environs, compromising the saftey of
the very citizens they swore to protect by placing them directly in
harms way.


compromising safety?


The topic was "runway safety zones" was it not?
It is not safe to put people in said areas.
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Old November 5th 06, 09:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Blanche
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We're about to have another round of Us v. Them in Denver at APA.
The FAA is starting another 180 days of public comment on noise.
The article in the newspaper started out very positive, citing the
economic impact. That was the first 2 paragraphs. Then the rest of
the article was rather negative, talking about noise, giving the
telephone number to make complaints, and so on.

APA does not take FAA funds for many reasons, including not being
allowed to have scheduled flights. There are lots of charters
but nothing scheduled.

And they keep building directly under the 17 approach, about
2 miles north of the runway. And people keep buying these houses!


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Old November 6th 06, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
adeian
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I was planning a xcountry to Scottsbluff and noticed in the NOTAMs that 3V5
was closed indefinitely. That's Ft.Collins, Co Downtown. Anybody know
what's happening there?

When I bought my first house I found the perfect place right beside Buckley
AFB's runway. I got to see all the cool stuff and loved the noise.
When the other people around me complained I just asked why they bought a
place next to an Air Force Base that had been there 75 years.

Paul

"Blanche" wrote in message
...
We're about to have another round of Us v. Them in Denver at APA.
The FAA is starting another 180 days of public comment on noise.
The article in the newspaper started out very positive, citing the
economic impact. That was the first 2 paragraphs. Then the rest of
the article was rather negative, talking about noise, giving the
telephone number to make complaints, and so on.

APA does not take FAA funds for many reasons, including not being
allowed to have scheduled flights. There are lots of charters
but nothing scheduled.

And they keep building directly under the 17 approach, about
2 miles north of the runway. And people keep buying these houses!




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Old November 4th 06, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Peter Duniho wrote:
However, that doesn't mean that it's reasonable for the media to *falsely
claim* that "airports were built in congested urban areas".


True, but sitting around complaining that the media isn't "reasonable"
isn't productive either. It doesn't change anything.

-Robert

 




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