Todays Cost of getting a PPL

After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.
Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?

In a previous article, john smith said:
After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.

Remember that most of the cost of getting your PPL is the cost of flying.
If you don't want to pay for flying, then why the hell are you getting a
PPL?


--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
C is *supposed* to be dangerous, damnit!
-- Anonymous, on "Safer C"

john smith wrote:

After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.

I reckon that what is unusual about John, is his candor in admiting
(to himself/others) what he actually spent; when I was trying to
figure things out and budget my initial private certificate, I found
that the answers I got were a bit useless as most people I talked
to were rationalizing away a lot of the costs.

--Sylvain

In article
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john smith wrote:

After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.
Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?

Executive Flyers at KBED (Bedford MA) is probably just about
the highest around here (at least I hope so!!).

http://www.executiveflyers.com/html/rates.html

VFR C-152 $87/hours (dual $135/hour)

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"john smith" wrote in message
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After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.
Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?

At my home field, the lowest rental is an $80/hr C-172 and they charge
$35/hr for instruction.

Figure $4k for 50 hours of rental and another $1k for ~25 hours of dual and
the license should be doable for $5k plus testing, check-ride, and supply
expenses.

Another local field rents C-152's, which would probably take $1k out of the
cost.

KB

I think my private cost around 800 dollars. :-)) Man have times changed!!!
Must be the damn lawyers for sure!!! :-))
Dudley Henriques

"john smith" wrote in message
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After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.
Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?

Paul Tomblin writes:

Remember that most of the cost of getting your PPL is the cost of flying.
If you don't want to pay for flying, then why the hell are you getting a
PPL?

The amount that must be paid is an important variable. If flying
costs $10, a lot more people will fly than if it costs $100,000.
Therefore asking how much it costs is entirely reasonable and
legitimate.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

In a previous article, "Dudley Henriques" said:
I think my private cost around 800 dollars. :-)) Man have times changed!!!
Must be the damn lawyers for sure!!! :-))

When I was a kid I joined the Royal Canadian Air Cadets in an attempt to
get a pilots license on the cheap. Didn't work - my smart-assedness
didn't work well with junior Hitlers who think that an Air Cadet rank
gives them sort of power.

Years later, I moved to the States and had some money to burn, so I
finally fulfilled the dream and got my license, paying ~$60/hr for the
plane and $20/hr for the instructor.

After I finally got it, my Dad asked me why I didn't get my license before
he retired when I could have done it at the deHavilland Canada Flying Club
for about $10/hr. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ****ING TELL ME THAT DEHAVILLAND HAD
A FLYING CLUB, DAD! Surprisingly, I let him live.

--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
"The Computer made me do it."

"john smith" wrote in message
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After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?

First of all, allow me to say that I have no idea how much It cost me to
get my PPL, and I don't ever want to know. (I CAN tell you that it is nowhere
near $12,500.) Unless you are getting a license for a particular reason, the
actual price of your training is unimportant. I fly for pleasure, and to me the
major difference between being a student pilot and being a Private pilot is that
I no longer have to pay a CFI to periodically ride along with me. The CFI costs
much less than the airplane that I rent, so this is a small item in the grand
scheme of things.

Flying is flying. Except for ground school and CFI ground time, training is
flying.


It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.

Not true. Figure something less than $150/hour for an average of about 50
hours, plus books, materials, ground school, test fees, & examiner fee. But
actually you should remove the aircraft rental figure from the above total
because "flying is flying".

Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

Depends on the plane I select. I can have the brand new G1000 172 at one
price or the ratty old 152 for a much lesser price, or any of several planes
that are in between. I went for the ratty old 152. Now that I am a PPL, I
often still fly that ratty old 152. It grows on you.

Vaughn




What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?

$5000 to $6000 is more typical, although it varies by region.

-Robert, CFII

john smith wrote:
After reading John's (BucFan) posting and the revelation that he spent
$12,500 to get his PPL, I have to wonder how representative this is?
It certainly is daunting, to say the least.
Is this is true, it is certainly a factor in the decline in pilot starts
and completions.
Where you live:
What are the going rates for dual instruction?

What are the rates and aircraft being used for training?