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Old December 5th 06, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...FA021& akey=1

"The airplane was being operated as an instrument flight rules (IFR)
cross-country personal flight under Title 14, CFR Part 91, when the accident
occurred. The non-instrument rated, solo private-certificated pilot,
sustained fatal injuries"
.......
"The flight originated at the New Smyrna Beach Municipal Airport, New Smyrna
Beach, Florida, about 1920 eastern standard time (EST), and was en route to
the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport, New Orleans,
Louisiana. "
........
"The instructor noted that the accident pilot had been practicing the flight
route to New Orleans using a Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 program, on his
personal computer. "


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Old December 5th 06, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Steve Foley wrote:

"The airplane was being operated as an instrument flight rules (IFR)
cross-country personal flight under Title 14, CFR Part 91, when the accident
occurred. The non-instrument rated, solo private-certificated pilot,
sustained fatal injuries"


What a depressing read. The only bright spot is that at least he didn't
take anyone with him.

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Old December 5th 06, 03:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-05, Steve Foley wrote:
snip accident report

No, MSFS didn't kill him - overconfidence in skills and arrogance killed
him (the arrogance - I don't need no damned instrument ticket to make
this flight).

Conditions were hard IFR - ceilings at 100 to 200 feet. Not the sort of
place a novice instrument pilot really ought to be.

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Old December 5th 06, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-12-05, Steve Foley wrote:
snip accident report

No, MSFS didn't kill him - overconfidence in skills and arrogance killed
him (the arrogance - I don't need no damned instrument ticket to make
this flight).

Conditions were hard IFR - ceilings at 100 to 200 feet. Not the sort of
place a novice instrument pilot really ought to be.

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Sure it was over confidence, but did he have that confidence because he had
read on the internet that flying MSFS was just like real life?


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Old December 5th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure it was over confidence, but did he have that confidence because he had
read on the internet that flying MSFS was just like real life?


No. He made decisions that had nothing to do with MSFS, such as
continuing to fly longer than necessary even though he had a fuel
problem. That is just as stupid a decision in MSFS as it is in real
life, so even if he had practiced that in MSFS, it would not have made
any difference.

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Old December 5th 06, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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That is just as stupid a decision in MSFS as it is in real life


Wow!


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Old December 5th 06, 07:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Sure it was over confidence, but did he have that confidence because he
had
read on the internet that flying MSFS was just like real life?


No. He made decisions that had nothing to do with MSFS, such as
continuing to fly longer than necessary even though he had a fuel
problem. That is just as stupid a decision in MSFS as it is in real
life, so even if he had practiced that in MSFS, it would not have made
any difference.


Or maybe he practiced the flight in MSFS and felt he could do it but the
simulator didn't simulate something correctly, like fuel burn.

And your comment that a stupid decision in MSFS is just as stupid as one in
real life is just, well, stupid.


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Old December 5th 06, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Or maybe he practiced the flight in MSFS and felt he could do it but the
simulator didn't simulate something correctly, like fuel burn.


As far as I know, MSFS cannot simulate the type of intermittent fuel
system problem he had been having even before the accident flight.
His decision to ignore this problem was his big mistake.

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Old December 6th 06, 09:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-12-05, Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
Sure it was over confidence, but did he have that confidence because he had
read on the internet that flying MSFS was just like real life?


There's even more on the Internet that says MSFS is nothing like real
life, though.

Of course, it's all speculation. I'd wager many newly minted legal IFR
pilots would have had a hard time with an imminent fuel emergency adding
to the stress, night and very low IMC conditions.

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Old December 6th 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dylan Smith writes:

Of course, it's all speculation. I'd wager many newly minted legal IFR
pilots would have had a hard time with an imminent fuel emergency adding
to the stress, night and very low IMC conditions.


Even in simulation.

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