That "no-GUMP" Scratching Sound

I hope to never hear this first-hand. Of course I've increased the
odds in my favor quite a bit by flying a fixed-gear aircraft.

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...ideo-7951.html

Enjoy, err, I mean cringe!

Marco

On 2/20/2007 4:10:33 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

I hope to never hear this first-hand. Of course I've increased the
odds in my favor quite a bit by flying a fixed-gear aircraft.

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

--
Peter

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:38:00 -0500, "Peter R."
wrote:

On 2/20/2007 4:10:33 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

I hope to never hear this first-hand. Of course I've increased the
odds in my favor quite a bit by flying a fixed-gear aircraft.

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

I'd have to go with failure. The gear horn was going off the whole
time, and the lack of reaction at touchdown lends me to lean towards
"they knew it was coming".

In article ,
Peter Clark wrote:

I'd have to go with failure. The gear horn was going off the whole
time, and the lack of reaction at touchdown lends me to lean towards
"they knew it was coming".

Don't be so sure. I've had both students and rental-checkouts continue
down final with the gear horn blaring, completely oblivious to it. It
boggles my mind, but I've seen it several times. It isn't until I ask,
"what does that horn mean?" that there's a dawning.

Scary.

I'd have to go with failure. The gear horn was going off the whole
time, and the lack of reaction at touchdown lends me to lean towards
"they knew it was coming".

Don't be so sure. I've had both students and rental-checkouts continue
down final with the gear horn blaring, completely oblivious to it. It
boggles my mind, but I've seen it several times. It isn't until I ask,
"what does that horn mean?" that there's a dawning.

Scary.

I also presumed that it was a mechanical failure. However, the description
at the bottom of the page states that "...the pilot thought his gear was
down. ..." It also invites additional information, if known.

On 2/20/2007 6:25:20 PM, Peter Clark wrote:

I'd have to go with failure. The gear horn was going off the whole
time, and the lack of reaction at touchdown lends me to lean towards
"they knew it was coming".

I was wondering what that klaxon was. My Bonanza's gear warning horn sounds
like a stall warning horn and is continuous, not intermittent.

--
Peter

On Feb 20, 5:38 pm, "Peter R." wrote:

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

My guess is that it was a pilot error. I think the poster was the
cameraman as well and the pilot's patting of the dash was another
clue.

Marco

Marco Leon wrote:
On Feb 20, 5:38 pm, "Peter R." wrote:

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

My guess is that it was a pilot error. I think the poster was the
cameraman as well and the pilot's patting of the dash was another
clue.


If that was pilot error, he's certainly got a lot more restraint than I'm
blessed with. You'd have heard me cussing in the next county. Hey, when I'm
not happy, nobody's happy.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On Feb 20, 2:38 pm, "Peter R." wrote:
On 2/20/2007 4:10:33 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

I hope to never hear this first-hand. Of course I've increased the
odds in my favor quite a bit by flying a fixed-gear aircraft.

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

--
Peter

The first thing that jumped out at me was at the very beginning of the
video, you can hear one of the pilot talking about their "clubs". He
says something like "I went back there the day after to get back my
clubs and those things..."

To me it sounds like they were just shootin' the ****, weren't paying
attention to what they were doing, didn't do the checklist, and got
screwed. If it was a real emergency, they'd have been freaking out.
They would have told someone, and there would have been firetrucks
standing by.

Peter R. wrote:
On 2/20/2007 4:10:33 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

I hope to never hear this first-hand. Of course I've increased the
odds in my favor quite a bit by flying a fixed-gear aircraft.

I cannot tell - Was this a pilot mistake or a gear failure?

Pilot mistake... if you read the forums attached to that page you'll
see that they were doing multiple landings with the gear down and
after the previous one the pilot retracted the gear (force of habit
he says) and forgot to put it back.