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Old April 21st 07, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Our Hearts and Prayers go out to the friends and families.
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/break...-5768379c.html

Bush
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Old April 21st 07, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bush" wrote in message
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Our Hearts and Prayers go out to the friends and families.
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/break...-5768379c.html

Bush


Be advised this link was intercepted as a Virus.


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Old April 21st 07, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques writes:

Be advised this link was intercepted as a Virus.


See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blue...ash/index.html

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Old April 22nd 07, 10:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley

As they would say in OZ, Blood shame.

Is it normal to have pilots move up from an admin position on team to
one of the flight positions?

They said that the name of pilot would not be announced for 24 hours
to permit family to receive notification.

6 hours after crash cable TV here in Houston gave his name and rank
(Lt Cmdr) and photo. Just the drive by media showing respect (

Did the Navy retrofit the Angel birds with black boxes or do you know?

I would assume there were many photo's taken of the show and am sure
Navy is trying to get copies to help in investigation.

How is your health?

I'm some better. Cataract surgery did not go good and am having
problems seeing things. Has put off my looking at getting into glider
flying.


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Old April 22nd 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Big John writes:

6 hours after crash cable TV here in Houston gave his name and rank
(Lt Cmdr) and photo. Just the drive by media showing respect (


Actually, I don't see any reason to withhold the information. Sometimes the
suspense is more stressful than the certainty. And it relieves the other
families of stress more quickly.

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Old April 23rd 07, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Big John writes:
6 hours after crash cable TV here in Houston gave his name and rank
(Lt Cmdr) and photo. Just the drive by media showing respect (


Mxsmanic wrote:
Actually, I don't see any reason to withhold the information.
Sometimes the suspense is more stressful than the certainty.
And it relieves the other families of stress more quickly.


It isn't about withholding the info to create suspense. It is about
assuring that next-of-kind of the deceased have been contacted
"officially" before they hear it on TV, on the radio or see it online.
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Old April 23rd 07, 01:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Shirl wrote:
Big John writes:
6 hours after crash cable TV here in Houston gave his name and rank
(Lt Cmdr) and photo. Just the drive by media showing respect (


Mxsmanic wrote:
Actually, I don't see any reason to withhold the information.
Sometimes the suspense is more stressful than the certainty.
And it relieves the other families of stress more quickly.


It isn't about withholding the info to create suspense. It is about
assuring that next-of-kind of the deceased have been contacted
"officially" before they hear it on TV, on the radio or see it online.


Essentially, it's basic courtesy, if nothing else. And there's also the possibility of a
misidentification, too, in which case you've messed up _two_ families, not just one. Mx,
I'm sure you would rather hear that your (insert friend/relative here) died from someone
you know, rather than first seeing it on the news.

I wish the media wouldn't be so gleeful about showing crash footage right after an
accident. Last year, a friend of ours stalled and crashed on takeoff. We found out it
was him, not from his family or friends, but from seeing the newshounds' picture of the
crash online.

(we miss you, Leo...)
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Old April 23rd 07, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Shirl writes:

It isn't about withholding the info to create suspense. It is about
assuring that next-of-kind of the deceased have been contacted
"officially" before they hear it on TV, on the radio or see it online.


I'm not convinced that being contacted officially makes it any easier. And a
lot of people worried for quite some time before the official word was given,
which doesn't seem like a good thing.

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Old April 23rd 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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mxsmanic

I'm afraid you don't get the full story.

When I ejected over Greenland in 68, as soon as I was picked up and
had access to a telephone, I called my wife and told her I had ejected
and was OK. Am sure that the word went out ASAP after the birds landed
or prior from the Admin support staff on ground.

While it was reported that his family was at the Air Show they didn't
say who his family was that was there. Could have been his wife and
children or just his wife. Was his father and mother there and if not
how and when were they to be notified (seeing on TV???). I'm afraid
you must be a hard left Democrat and believe the freedom of the press
is more important than truth.

As Dudley said, he never talked to the media after an accident. I also
never talked to the media during war time or after an accident. All
they are interested in is the bottom line ($) and not putting out the
truth. I puke every time I see the media pushing their mics in
someones face after any type of a tragedy.

Why can't we limit the media to not putting out their drivel for two
weeks. There is nothing in the first amendment that says they have to
have access to and must publish yesterday about today's activities. In
an accident by that time (two weeks) there is probably a feeling of
what happened and not some monday morning quarter back shooting his
mouth off with no real facts to base his comments on.

As you can tell, I'm not a freedom of the press individual and work my
best to shut the media down.

You'all have a nice day and fly safe.

Big John
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:07:14 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Big John writes:

6 hours after crash cable TV here in Houston gave his name and rank
(Lt Cmdr) and photo. Just the drive by media showing respect (


Actually, I don't see any reason to withhold the information. Sometimes the
suspense is more stressful than the certainty. And it relieves the other
families of stress more quickly.


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Old April 23rd 07, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Big John writes:

Why can't we limit the media to not putting out their drivel for two
weeks.


Because the drivel is what you tune in to watch.

The media produce what people want to see. The media find news that instills
fear, uncertainty, and dread, or, failing that, they look for schadenfreude.
When people are scared, they tune in for reassurance; as long as they remain
scared, they continue to watch (and so the media takes care to never really
reassured them very much). As for schadenfreude, that's the principle in this
case: people like it when others suffer misfortunate, as it makes them feel
more warm and fuzzy about their own lives, and it makes them feel superior.

There is nothing in the first amendment that says they have to
have access to and must publish yesterday about today's activities.


Freedom of speech is the most important freedom you have. Be careful what you
wish for.

As you can tell, I'm not a freedom of the press individual and work my
best to shut the media down.


I guess having a military that fights and dies to protect that freedom doesn't
mean much to you.

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