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Indeed they would be jettisoned only if doing so would be critical to either
the mission of the survival of the aircraft. The situation you mention is one, another is where the pylon itself is heavily damaged causing a lot of drag which would prevent the aircraft from reaching home. Or you might think of an F-22 carrying external fuel to penetrate into enemy territory jettisoning those tank and pylons to decrease its radar cross section for the commencement of the combat part of its mission (and meeting a tanker on the way out). "Jeremy Thomson" wrote in message m... In my 'Great Planes' video of the Northrup F5 Freedom Fighter it talked of the 'Scochi Tiger's being brought up to USAF standard with among other things 'Jettisonable Pylons'. I guess that meant the pylons with which the bombs, rockets & fuel tanks were attached. I suppose if an aircraft had taken a hit in a fuel tank & you absolutely must wring out every last bit of range to get you out of indian country, jettisoning the pylons would save a little weight & drag. Under what conditions would plyons be jettisoned? I dont know but is it usual these days for fighters to return to base keeping their empty drop tanks with them? Are plyons still jettisonable as USAF standard? Jeremy Thomson |
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![]() Jeroen Wenting wrote: Indeed they would be jettisoned only if doing so would be critical to either the mission of the survival of the aircraft. The situation you mention is one, another is where the pylon itself is heavily damaged causing a lot of drag which would prevent the aircraft from reaching home. Or you might think of an F-22 carrying external fuel to penetrate into enemy territory jettisoning those tank and pylons to decrease its radar cross section for the commencement of the combat part of its mission (and meeting a tanker on the way out). "Jeremy Thomson" wrote in message m... In my 'Great Planes' video of the Northrup F5 Freedom Fighter it talked of the 'Scochi Tiger's being brought up to USAF standard with among other things 'Jettisonable Pylons'. I guess that meant the pylons with which the bombs, rockets & fuel tanks were attached. I suppose if an aircraft had taken a hit in a fuel tank & you absolutely must wring out every last bit of range to get you out of indian country, jettisoning the pylons would save a little weight & drag. Under what conditions would plyons be jettisoned? I dont know but is it usual these days for fighters to return to base keeping their empty drop tanks with them? Are plyons still jettisonable as USAF standard? Jeremy Thomson I recall seeing an account somewhere -- might have been the A-4 Squadron Signal volume -- of a Skyhawk pilot providing cover for a pilot rescue in Vietnam in which he had expended all his ordnance, and as a desperation measure to keep the bad guys' heads down, made a pass and released his multiple ejector racks. For whatever it's worth, he said it worked. |
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Jeremy Thomson wrote:
In my 'Great Planes' video of the Northrup F5 Freedom Fighter it talked of the 'Scochi Tiger's being brought up to USAF standard with among other things 'Jettisonable Pylons'. I suppose if an aircraft had taken a hit in a fuel tank & you absolutely must wring out every last bit of range to get you out of indian country, jettisoning the pylons would save a little weight & drag. I don't know about the F-5A, but a full set of five F-5E pylons weighs 670 lbs according to the 1978 flight manual. The book's cruise graph says a clean F-5E gets .260 nm per pound of fuel. With five empty pylons, mileage drops to .205 nm/lb. (At best cruise altitude and speed, carrying 1/2 max internal load) Imagine your car dropping from 26 mpg to 20.5 mpg - quite a difference. You might be tempted to throw that roof rack away. On the other hand, if it's not your car and you will have to explain the missing rack... BTW, the company name is spelled "Northrop", and I've always seen the nickname spelled "Skoshi Tiger". -- Paul Hirose |
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Paul Hirose writes: Jeremy Thomson wrote: In my 'Great Planes' video of the Northrup F5 Freedom Fighter it talked of the 'Scochi Tiger's being brought up to USAF standard with among other things 'Jettisonable Pylons'. I suppose if an aircraft had taken a hit in a fuel tank & you absolutely must wring out every last bit of range to get you out of indian country, jettisoning the pylons would save a little weight & drag. I don't know about the F-5A, but a full set of five F-5E pylons weighs 670 lbs according to the 1978 flight manual. It's not weight so much, as the extra drag. A wing pylon typically adds about 0.05 - 0.1 sq ft to the Equivalent Profile Area. On a small bird like an F-5, that's an awful lot. The book's cruise graph says a clean F-5E gets .260 nm per pound of fuel. With five empty pylons, mileage drops to .205 nm/lb. (At best cruise altitude and speed, carrying 1/2 max internal load) Most of that difference will be due to drag, rather than weight. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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