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Here is the response I received from Mr. Robert Poole of the Reason
Foundation (the chief proponent for ATC privatization, and user fees): On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:56:21 -0400, "Bob Poole" wrote 021a01c7a497$b0e45740$8d01a8c0@IBM51B8A3EC99C: Dear Larry, There was nothing new in GAO's letter, which merely cited the CBO projection of FAA revenue that it presented last fall, and which I criticized in Issue 38 of ATC Reform News (October 2006). I actually got in touch with the CBO people who worked on this, and they did a very simple projection of aviation excise tax revenues, assuming they grow slightly faster than inflation and expected GDP, based on historic relations between air travel and economic growth. That kind of projection ignores the changes going on in how the total number of passengers is being flown--in smaller and smaller average-size units, thanks to the continued substitution of narrow-bodies for wide-bodies on long-haul routes, of RJs for narrow-bodies on medium routes, and (still to come) of more fractionals and VLJs for short-haul airliners on short routes. ATC workload (and hence costs) goes up directly proportional to the number of aircraft in the system; but revenue goes up proportional to the number of passengers and average ticket prices. The former will go up at a significantly faster rate than the latter. This is completely ignored in the CBO projection. GAO knows better than this; their own report (GAO-06-1114T) from the same hearing last fall provided much detail on how FAA revenue is diverging from ATC cost drivers. But GAO has not done a revenue projection of their own, so they have only the CBO projection to rely on. And unfortunately, the FAA has not done this type of projection either; they also still rely on historical relationships. Nonetheless, Blakey made a good point at a hearing earlier this year that--yes, FAA can proceed with NextGen implementation steps if Congress fails to give it an additional funding source (or better still, to change the basis of its funding, as FAA proposed, to directly track flight volume). But we won't get it done as fast or as effectively as if we could bond much of the capital cost and pay off the bonds from a predictable and stable source of revenue. Best wishes, Bob Poole -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dighera ] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:30 AM To: Subject: GAO REAFFIRMS CURRENT TAXES CAN FUND FAA'S NEXTGEN Dear Sir: Below you appear to assert that ATC privatization and the resulting imposition of user fees is necessary for NextGen ATC implementation: http://www.reason.org/inthenews.shtml Aviation Week & Space Technology Aug 21 Urgent Need For Consensus On ATC User Fees By Robert Poole, Reason The Joint Planning and Development Office (JPDO)--the multi-agency organization that is trying to craft a 21st century aviation system for the U.S.--has made a persuasive case that the current air traffic control model of separating planes by hand is not scalable. Hence, without changing to a network-centric model, we will be unable to double or triple the system's capacity over the next 20 years. And if we don't at least double capacity, aviation faces a future of ever-increasing congestion and rationing. But it strains credulity to think that the present funding and governance structure for ATC can give us the proposed NextGen system in a timely and affordable manner. Three major problems cry out for solution: However it seems your NextGen funding analysis is at odds with the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and GAO: GAO REAFFIRMS CURRENT TAXES CAN FUND FAA'S NEXTGEN In a letter (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07918r.pdf) sent Tuesday to follow up on questions arising from a March 29 House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee hearing on NextGen, Government Accountability Office Director of Physical Infrastructure Issues Dr. Gerald Dillingham reiterated that "the current FAA funding structure can provide sufficient funding for NextGen--with some caveats." He said that the FAA itself has estimated that "if the current taxes remain in effect at their current rates, revenues will continue to increase." According to projections prepared by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), revenues obtained from the existing FAA funding structure will increase substantially. "Assuming the General Fund continues to provide about 19 percent of FAA's budget, CBO estimates that through 2016 the Trust Fund can support about $19 billion in additional spending over the baseline FAA spending levels CBO has calculated for FAA provided that most of the spending occurs after fiscal year 2010," Dillingham noted. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195310 Are you able to provide any insight into the apparent disagreement between yourself and the GAO? Thank you. Best regards, Larry Dighera |
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Larry Dighera wrote: That kind of projection ignores the changes going on in how the total number of passengers is being flown--in smaller and smaller average-size units, thanks to the continued substitution of narrow-bodies for wide-bodies on long-haul routes, of RJs for narrow-bodies on medium routes, and (still to come) of more fractionals and VLJs for short-haul airliners on short routes. ATC workload (and hence costs) goes up directly proportional to the number of aircraft in the system; but revenue goes up proportional to the number of passengers and average ticket prices. The former will go up at a significantly faster rate than the latter. This is completely ignored in the CBO projection. So by their own admission, the airlines are contributing to the very condtion they are complaining about, ie... smaller jets clogging the system. But of course, they are their jets flying their passengers. I liked that line in the ATA cartoon where the DC-3 says, "...they're hogging our skies!" The ATA message is so inconsistant and contradictory, but of course, the general public never hears the whole story. |
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The Rove Strategy:
Let's see, if we fail to attempt to meet the staffing requirements for Air Traffic Control for a few years, it should cause delays for airline travelers, then we can use that to leverage our user fee based, privatized NextGen funding into law, give the contract to Boeing, and fulfill Bush's debt to corporate America, and get rid of those pesky little airplanes in the bargain. That's it. Flight Service Station privatization is working as planned; if the trend continues, soon Lockheed-Martin's failure to meet the needs of General Aviation users will make it possible to just collect the funds without providing anything. It's good for the nation. :-( BLAKEY TURNS UP FUNDING RHETORIC FAA Administrator Marion Blakey is painting a bleak picture of the future of air travel if her controversial formula to fund the agency isn't adopted. In a speech (http://www.faa.gov/news/speeches/new...fm?newsId=8968) delivered during the Joint Planning and Development Office (JPDO) Day on the Hill late last week, Blakey told members of Congress that air traffic gridlock is on the horizon and the high-tech solution to the problem needs the funding that her user-pay-based proposal would provide. "If we're unable to have a financing reform bill in place by September 30, when the current set of taxes expire, the delays and the missed connections and the headlines are only going to get worse -- much worse," she said. "Without a reliable funding stream, the NextGen program will start to slow down, and when the bow wave of delays hits, it'll be too late." Others, including the Government Accountability Office, have questioned that view. (Click here (http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20070618) to listen to the Reason Foundation's Robert Poole on why aviation user fees would be good for airspace users.) http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195424 On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:47:52 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in : Here is the response I received from Mr. Robert Poole of the Reason Foundation (the chief proponent for ATC privatization, and user fees): On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:56:21 -0400, "Bob Poole" wrote 021a01c7a497$b0e45740$8d01a8c0@IBM51B8A3EC99C : Dear Larry, There was nothing new in GAO's letter, which merely cited the CBO projection of FAA revenue that it presented last fall, and which I criticized in Issue 38 of ATC Reform News (October 2006). I actually got in touch with the CBO people who worked on this, and they did a very simple projection of aviation excise tax revenues, assuming they grow slightly faster than inflation and expected GDP, based on historic relations between air travel and economic growth. That kind of projection ignores the changes going on in how the total number of passengers is being flown--in smaller and smaller average-size units, thanks to the continued substitution of narrow-bodies for wide-bodies on long-haul routes, of RJs for narrow-bodies on medium routes, and (still to come) of more fractionals and VLJs for short-haul airliners on short routes. ATC workload (and hence costs) goes up directly proportional to the number of aircraft in the system; but revenue goes up proportional to the number of passengers and average ticket prices. The former will go up at a significantly faster rate than the latter. This is completely ignored in the CBO projection. GAO knows better than this; their own report (GAO-06-1114T) from the same hearing last fall provided much detail on how FAA revenue is diverging from ATC cost drivers. But GAO has not done a revenue projection of their own, so they have only the CBO projection to rely on. And unfortunately, the FAA has not done this type of projection either; they also still rely on historical relationships. Nonetheless, Blakey made a good point at a hearing earlier this year that--yes, FAA can proceed with NextGen implementation steps if Congress fails to give it an additional funding source (or better still, to change the basis of its funding, as FAA proposed, to directly track flight volume). But we won't get it done as fast or as effectively as if we could bond much of the capital cost and pay off the bonds from a predictable and stable source of revenue. Best wishes, Bob Poole -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dighera ] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:30 AM To: Subject: GAO REAFFIRMS CURRENT TAXES CAN FUND FAA'S NEXTGEN Dear Sir: Below you appear to assert that ATC privatization and the resulting imposition of user fees is necessary for NextGen ATC implementation: http://www.reason.org/inthenews.shtml Aviation Week & Space Technology Aug 21 Urgent Need For Consensus On ATC User Fees By Robert Poole, Reason The Joint Planning and Development Office (JPDO)--the multi-agency organization that is trying to craft a 21st century aviation system for the U.S.--has made a persuasive case that the current air traffic control model of separating planes by hand is not scalable. Hence, without changing to a network-centric model, we will be unable to double or triple the system's capacity over the next 20 years. And if we don't at least double capacity, aviation faces a future of ever-increasing congestion and rationing. But it strains credulity to think that the present funding and governance structure for ATC can give us the proposed NextGen system in a timely and affordable manner. Three major problems cry out for solution: However it seems your NextGen funding analysis is at odds with the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and GAO: GAO REAFFIRMS CURRENT TAXES CAN FUND FAA'S NEXTGEN In a letter (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07918r.pdf) sent Tuesday to follow up on questions arising from a March 29 House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee hearing on NextGen, Government Accountability Office Director of Physical Infrastructure Issues Dr. Gerald Dillingham reiterated that "the current FAA funding structure can provide sufficient funding for NextGen--with some caveats." He said that the FAA itself has estimated that "if the current taxes remain in effect at their current rates, revenues will continue to increase." According to projections prepared by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), revenues obtained from the existing FAA funding structure will increase substantially. "Assuming the General Fund continues to provide about 19 percent of FAA's budget, CBO estimates that through 2016 the Trust Fund can support about $19 billion in additional spending over the baseline FAA spending levels CBO has calculated for FAA provided that most of the spending occurs after fiscal year 2010," Dillingham noted. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195310 Are you able to provide any insight into the apparent disagreement between yourself and the GAO? Thank you. Best regards, Larry Dighera |
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