Cessna LSA -- Good Luck if you want one

Cessna is rationing their LSA very strictly. Each dealer gets exactly
one! If you want a Cessna LSA you AND your dealer, apparently, have to
go to Oshkosh with a $10,000 deposit one week before the show and meet
with a Cessna representative. There are no hotel rooms available and
Cessna will not provide you with one, so you are on your own there.
Cessna says the LSA will be less than $100,000.

For your deposit you get on a list for delivery, perhaps in 2008.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote:
Cessna is rationing their LSA very strictly. Each dealer gets exactly
one! If you want a Cessna LSA you AND your dealer, apparently, have to
go to Oshkosh with a $10,000 deposit one week before the show and meet
with a Cessna representative. There are no hotel rooms available and
Cessna will not provide you with one, so you are on your own there.
Cessna says the LSA will be less than $100,000.

For your deposit you get on a list for delivery, perhaps in 2008.

Did they settle on an engine? Last I heard,
they were still trying to decide whether it
would be Rotax or Lyc.

Any performance specs, particularly endurance
and top speed?

In any case, I'm not gonna trade my CTSW for
one.

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message news
C J Campbell wrote:
Cessna is rationing their LSA very strictly. Each dealer gets exactly one! If you want a Cessna LSA you AND your
dealer, apparently, have to go to Oshkosh with a $10,000 deposit one week before the show and meet with a Cessna
representative. There are no hotel rooms available and Cessna will not provide you with one, so you are on your own
there. Cessna says the LSA will be less than $100,000.

For your deposit you get on a list for delivery, perhaps in 2008.

Did they settle on an engine? Last I heard,
they were still trying to decide whether it
would be Rotax or Lyc.


IMHO, neither of them...I'd put my money on this engine: http://tcmlink.com/engines/index.cfm?lsa=yes


Any performance specs, particularly endurance
and top speed?

In any case, I'm not gonna trade my CTSW for
one.

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
news
C J Campbell wrote:
Cessna is rationing their LSA very strictly. Each dealer gets exactly
one! If you want a Cessna LSA you AND your dealer, apparently, have to go
to Oshkosh with a $10,000 deposit one week before the show and meet with
a Cessna representative. There are no hotel rooms available and Cessna
will not provide you with one, so you are on your own there. Cessna says
the LSA will be less than $100,000.

For your deposit you get on a list for delivery, perhaps in 2008.

Did they settle on an engine? Last I heard,
they were still trying to decide whether it
would be Rotax or Lyc.

They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200. Market surveys said
they would sell very few if they went with the Rotax.


Any performance specs, particularly endurance
and top speed?

In any case, I'm not gonna trade my CTSW for
one.

Dave Stadt wrote:
They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200. Market surveys said
they would sell very few if they went with the Rotax.

This was the only comment I wrote on my card at AirVenture last year,
"Dump the Rotax!"

Why? The DA-20 in my flying club had so many problems with the Rotax
that the airplane spent 20% of its time down for engine maintenance
problems.

"john smith" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:
They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200. Market surveys said
they would sell very few if they went with the Rotax.

This was the only comment I wrote on my card at AirVenture last year,
"Dump the Rotax!"

Why? The DA-20 in my flying club had so many problems with the Rotax that
the airplane spent 20% of its time down for engine maintenance problems.

And Rotax support is the other side of nonexistant.

Dave Stadt wrote:

They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200.

Aren't Cessna and Lycoming both owned by Textron? ... but they'll use a
competing engine in their LSA?

Dave

"Dave Butler" wrote:

They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200.

Aren't Cessna and Lycoming both owned by Textron? ... but they'll use a
competing engine in their LSA?

Cessna is fed up with Lycoming after the recent crankshaft fiasco and the
IO-580 debacle. The 580 was supposed to be the new generation engine for the
206, but Lycoming couldn't fix the teething problems in time for
certification, forcing Cessma to use the older but proven 540.

TCM seems to have the edge in mfg. technology and quality control these days,
after restructuring their main plant in Mobile. Apparently to the point that
Cessna has enough confidence in TCM that it is willing to snub its own
corporate sibling.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

On Jun 22, 7:50 am, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Dave Butler" wrote:
They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200.

Aren't Cessna and Lycoming both owned by Textron? ... but they'll use a
competing engine in their LSA?

Cessna is fed up with Lycoming after the recent crankshaft fiasco and the
IO-580 debacle. The 580 was supposed to be the new generation engine for the
206, but Lycoming couldn't fix the teething problems in time for
certification, forcing Cessma to use the older but proven 540.

TCM seems to have the edge in mfg. technology and quality control these days,
after restructuring their main plant in Mobile. Apparently to the point that
Cessna has enough confidence in TCM that it is willing to snub its own
corporate sibling.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

According to my most recent issue of Aviation Consumer,
Textron gave Cessna permission to try other engines. Even the parent
company is fed up with the Lycoming crank circus.
But I don't think they got smart by choosing the O-200. We
sold our 150s a long time ago to get clear of that engine. 1800 TBO
but the cylinders always needed work halfway there. And it didn't
produce any more thrust than the C-90. The higher RPM ate up the extra
HP in drag.

Dan

Dave Butler wrote:
Dave Stadt wrote:

They got smart and decided on the Continental O-200.

Aren't Cessna and Lycoming both owned by Textron? ... but they'll use a
competing engine in their LSA?

Dave
Yes, and so is Macauley Props for that matter.

Of course, the question is whether Lycoming is going to make a small
enough engine.