helicopter collision phoenix

This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+



Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while covering a
police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and were on fire. There
was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

Gattman wrote:
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+



Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while
covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and
were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

When I was with a TV station that had a helicopter (I only worked in the
helicopter on one story) there was an agreement that one station would do
this sort of stuff at x altitude, the other would be at x-200 and x+200. I
think the police were even in on this little agreement and they stayed at
their altitude.

When they had to leave the set altitude radio calls were made and eyes were
looking even more than normal.

On Jul 27, 4:53 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Gattman wrote:
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+

Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while
covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and
were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

When I was with a TV station that had a helicopter (I only worked in the
helicopter on one story) there was an agreement that one station would do
this sort of stuff at x altitude, the other would be at x-200 and x+200. I
think the police were even in on this little agreement and they stayed at
their altitude.

When they had to leave the set altitude radio calls were made and eyes were
looking even more than normal.

I was reading one of the stories and it said the reporter was the
pilot? I would think that would make it even MORE difficult to "see
and avoid..."

Doug Semler writes:

I was reading one of the stories and it said the reporter was the
pilot? I would think that would make it even MORE difficult to "see
and avoid..."

There was a crew of two in each aircraft, pilot and journalist. However, some
news helicopter pilots do double as journalists; I don't know to what extent
that may have been true here. Clearly, the pilots were not spending enough
time on the piloting task in any case.

On Jul 27, 7:35 pm, Doug Semler wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:53 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:





Gattman wrote:
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+

Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while
covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and
were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

When I was with a TV station that had a helicopter (I only worked in the
helicopter on one story) there was an agreement that one station would do
this sort of stuff at x altitude, the other would be at x-200 and x+200. I
think the police were even in on this little agreement and they stayed at
their altitude.

When they had to leave the set altitude radio calls were made and eyes were
looking even more than normal.

I was reading one of the stories and it said the reporter was the
pilot? I would think that would make it even MORE difficult to "see
and avoid..."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The pilot/reporter gig is pretty typical. In the 80's it was mostly
reporters with pilots (and camera crew/s) but the trend started to be
to have someone who could fly, talk and do PR...I dont know what the
mix is now, but by the time I left grad school in ATL...all the tv
chopper people were "Action reporter/pilot" nonesense. And that
seemed to be the industry trend.

Robert

Luke Skywalker wrote:
On Jul 27, 7:35 pm, Doug Semler wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:53 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:





Gattman wrote:
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+

Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while
covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and
were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

When I was with a TV station that had a helicopter (I only worked in the
helicopter on one story) there was an agreement that one station would do
this sort of stuff at x altitude, the other would be at x-200 and x+200. I
think the police were even in on this little agreement and they stayed at
their altitude.

When they had to leave the set altitude radio calls were made and eyes were
looking even more than normal.

I was reading one of the stories and it said the reporter was the
pilot? I would think that would make it even MORE difficult to "see
and avoid..."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The pilot/reporter gig is pretty typical. In the 80's it was mostly
reporters with pilots (and camera crew/s) but the trend started to be
to have someone who could fly, talk and do PR...I dont know what the
mix is now, but by the time I left grad school in ATL...all the tv
chopper people were "Action reporter/pilot" nonesense. And that
seemed to be the industry trend.

Of course.

I would wager the salary of a pilot/reporter is greater than either
a pilot or a reporter, but less that of a pilot plus a reporter, and
cerainly if you throw in labor taxes and benefits if they are employees.

--
Jim Pennino

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Doug Semler wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:53 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Gattman wrote:
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+

Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while
covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and
were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those
aboard.

When I was with a TV station that had a helicopter (I only worked in
the helicopter on one story) there was an agreement that one station
would do this sort of stuff at x altitude, the other would be at x-
200 and x+200. I think the police were even in on this little
agreement and they stayed at their altitude.

When they had to leave the set altitude radio calls were made and
eyes were looking even more than normal.

I was reading one of the stories and it said the reporter was the
pilot? I would think that would make it even MORE difficult to "see
and avoid..."

I read that as well this weekend and I was shocked. I was in a smaller
market than Phoenix and that would have been completely unacceptable
practice.

"Gattman" wrote in message ...
This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+



Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while covering a police pursuit. Both helicopters went
down in a park and were on fire. There was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.


Pilot and cameraman on each, all died. Someone caught a snapshot; looked one was inverted and the other was rolled over
90° going in...

Not good...

On 2007-07-27 13:14:02 -0700, "Gattman" said:

This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+



Jul 27 04:03 PM US/Eastern (AP)

Two television news helicopters collided Friday and crashed while covering a
police pursuit. Both helicopters went down in a park and were on fire. There
was no immediate word on the fate of those aboard.

Video he

http://video.ap.org/v/Default.aspx?g...&partner=en-ap

http://tinyurl.com/2llx9h

It

is raw video listed under "Most Watched." There is voice on the video,
a pilot who saw the collision occur.

All four people on both helicopters were killed.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-07-27 13:14:02 -0700, "Gattman" said:

This sucks. Bad guy 2, police 0, media -2+

Some news reports are saying the carjacker will be charged with the
deaths of the people killed in the crash. I am not sure how they would
get a conviction, though.


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor