Concorde

Tim Walters wrote:
Hello,
I've just read in one of the French ngs that the French consider
Concorde to have been the product of Gallic genius, with a small
contribution from the Brits. Does anyone here happen to know how much
(in terms of ideas, inventions, and engineering) each nation
contributed?

50/50
Without (British) Olympus Concorde can not fly ...


Tim Walters
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Bye
Alexandre

BAE tend to say "They did the styling, we did the engineering."

"Tim Walters" wrote in message
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I've just read in one of the French ngs that the French consider Concorde
to have been the product of Gallic genius, with a small contribution from
the Brits. Does anyone here happen to know how much (in terms of ideas,
inventions, and engineering) each nation contributed?

Tim Walters
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Matt wrote:
BAE tend to say "They did the styling, we did the engineering."

Probably some truth in that. Much of the research came from the TSR-2.

Cheers
David

In article , David Bromage
writes
Probably some truth in that. Much of the research came from the TSR-2.

Weren't Avro working towards a supersonic Vulcan as well?

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John

John Halliwell wrote:
In article , David Bromage
writes

Probably some truth in that. Much of the research came from the TSR-2.

Weren't Avro working towards a supersonic Vulcan as well?

RAF issued Operational Requirement 330 in 1954 for a supersonic recon
platform which could also be a supersonic V bomber. Most of the British
aircraft manufacturers made submissions but the project was cancelled in
1957. Do a search for the Avro 730, Vickers SP4 (which had 16 engines!),
Handley Page HP.100 and English Electric P.10. Shorts also did a design
but I can't remember what it was called.

Cheers
David

In article , Tim Walters
wrote:
I've just read in one of the French ngs that the French consider Concorde
to have been the product of Gallic genius, with a small contribution from
the Brits. Does anyone here happen to know how much (in terms of ideas,
inventions, and engineering) each nation contributed?

Easy. The UK contributed the design, and the French the spelling of the
name.

Aetherem Vincere
Matt
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To err is human
To forgive is not
Air Force Policy

"Matt Clonfero" ] wrote in message
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In article , Tim Walters
wrote:
I've just read in one of the French ngs that the French consider Concorde
to have been the product of Gallic genius, with a small contribution from
the Brits. Does anyone here happen to know how much (in terms of ideas,
inventions, and engineering) each nation contributed?

Easy. The UK contributed the design, and the French the spelling of the
name.

Or how about:

The UK started them, the French finished them



John

Correction :

Without Rolls-Royce & SNECMA (french) Olympus Concorde can not fly
;-)

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Tim Walters wrote:
Hello,
I've just read in one of the French ngs that the French consider
Concorde to have been the product of Gallic genius, with a small
contribution from the Brits. Does anyone here happen to know how much
(in terms of ideas, inventions, and engineering) each nation
contributed?

50/50
Without (British) Olympus Concorde can not fly ...


Tim Walters
Remove number for e-mail.

Bye
Alexandre

"Crazeagle" wrote in message
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Correction :

Without Rolls-Royce & SNECMA (french) Olympus Concorde can not fly
;-)



The Olympus engine predates Concorde having been
initially developed by Bristol Aero-Engines in 1950
and used in the Avro Vulcan and TSR-2

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Crazeagle" wrote in message
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Correction :

Without Rolls-Royce & SNECMA (french) Olympus Concorde can not fly
;-)



The Olympus engine predates Concorde having been
initially developed by Bristol Aero-Engines in 1950
and used in the Avro Vulcan and TSR-2

Well, sort of.

Vulcan (B1)

4 Bristol-Siddeley Olympus 101 (11,000 lb), 102 (12,000 lb) or 104s (13,500
lb)

Vulcan (B2)

4 Bristol-Siddeley Olympus 201 (17,000 lb) or 301s (20,000 lb)

TSR-1

Olympus 22R Mk.320

Thrust 13865kg
Dry Thrust 8880kg

Concorde

Olympus 593 Mk 610-14-28

Dry 139.4 kN (31,350 lb st)
Afterburner 169.2 kN (38,050 lb st)

As I'm sure you know already the Olympus was a family of engines developed
over a 20 year period. Weren't some of them also used in ships? I'm sure
also that I've seen a pic of a Vulcan with an underslung 593 under test
during the Concorde development programme. THe size difference is very
noticeable.

Best

John