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During the war Germany operated 16 Coal Gasification Plants that
produced synthetic fuel. 85% of German aviation ran off synthetics, as
did much of the German war machine in general.
The SS Scientific Branch further developed coal-burning powerplants as
well as exploring grain alcohol fuels, Hydrogen peroxide turbines, and
free energy machines like Hans Coler's designs as well as Schaubergers
vortex motors that ran off water, air, and a crystalline substance.
What you are quoting is pre-war oil sales to Germany and Germany's
strategic reserves during the opening of the war. As the war
progressed, however, Germany was dependent on synthetics, captured oil
fields, and coal burning engines. Some German Kubelwagens were even
converted over to coal burning engines while others were used to power
searchlights and run machinery.

Rob

p.s. After the war one of the German coal gasification plants was
actually transferred to Texas and research-operated for years before
being shut down and filed away by the US oil industry. Synthetics have
always been possible but the avg price of a barrel of synthetics is at
least double or triple the price of a barrel of crude oil. That's why
we are still dependent on foreign oil.

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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During the war Germany operated 16 Coal Gasification Plants that
produced synthetic fuel. 85% of German aviation ran off synthetics, as
did much of the German war machine in general.
The SS Scientific Branch further developed coal-burning powerplants as
well as exploring grain alcohol fuels, Hydrogen peroxide turbines, and
free energy machines like Hans Coler's designs as well as Schaubergers
vortex motors that ran off water, air, and a crystalline substance.
What you are quoting is pre-war oil sales to Germany and Germany's
strategic reserves during the opening of the war. As the war
progressed, however, Germany was dependent on synthetics, captured oil
fields, and coal burning engines. Some German Kubelwagens were even
converted over to coal burning engines while others were used to power
searchlights and run machinery.

Rob

p.s. After the war one of the German coal gasification plants was
actually transferred to Texas and research-operated for years before
being shut down and filed away by the US oil industry. Synthetics have
always been possible but the avg price of a barrel of synthetics is at
least double or triple the price of a barrel of crude oil. That's why
we are still dependent on foreign oil.

Germany wasnt the only nation to build large synthetic fuel
plants. ICI operated a number in the UKduring WW2.

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
During the war Germany operated 16 Coal Gasification Plants that
produced synthetic fuel. 85% of German aviation ran off synthetics, as
did much of the German war machine in general.
The SS Scientific Branch further developed coal-burning powerplants as
well as exploring grain alcohol fuels, Hydrogen peroxide turbines, and
free energy machines like Hans Coler's designs as well as Schaubergers
vortex motors that ran off water, air, and a crystalline substance.
What you are quoting is pre-war oil sales to Germany and Germany's
strategic reserves during the opening of the war. As the war
progressed, however, Germany was dependent on synthetics, captured oil
fields, and coal burning engines. Some German Kubelwagens were even
converted over to coal burning engines while others were used to power
searchlights and run machinery.

Rob

p.s. After the war one of the German coal gasification plants was
actually transferred to Texas and research-operated for years before
being shut down and filed away by the US oil industry. Synthetics have
always been possible but the avg price of a barrel of synthetics is at
least double or triple the price of a barrel of crude oil. That's why
we are still dependent on foreign oil.

Germany wasnt the only nation to build large synthetic fuel
plants. ICI operated a number in the UKduring WW2.

Keith

True enough... yet Germany had the most advanced synthetic fuel
programs in the world by 1945.

Rob

In article ,
(robert arndt) wrote:

True enough... yet Germany had the most advanced synthetic fuel
programs in the world by 1945.

Because they couldn't get any oil in the normal ways. Allied bombers
blowing up Ploesti didn't help.

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In article , teuton263
@aol.com says...
"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
During the war Germany operated 16 Coal Gasification Plants that
produced synthetic fuel. 85% of German aviation ran off synthetics, as
did much of the German war machine in general.
The SS Scientific Branch further developed coal-burning powerplants as
well as exploring grain alcohol fuels, Hydrogen peroxide turbines, and
free energy machines like Hans Coler's designs as well as Schaubergers
vortex motors that ran off water, air, and a crystalline substance.
What you are quoting is pre-war oil sales to Germany and Germany's
strategic reserves during the opening of the war. As the war
progressed, however, Germany was dependent on synthetics, captured oil
fields, and coal burning engines. Some German Kubelwagens were even
converted over to coal burning engines while others were used to power
searchlights and run machinery.

Rob

p.s. After the war one of the German coal gasification plants was
actually transferred to Texas and research-operated for years before
being shut down and filed away by the US oil industry. Synthetics have
always been possible but the avg price of a barrel of synthetics is at
least double or triple the price of a barrel of crude oil. That's why
we are still dependent on foreign oil.

Germany wasnt the only nation to build large synthetic fuel
plants. ICI operated a number in the UKduring WW2.

Keith

True enough... yet Germany had the most advanced synthetic fuel
programs in the world by 1945.


And hundreds of aircraft sitting on the runways without any fuel.


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On 19 Oct 2003 15:11:17 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
During the war Germany operated 16 Coal Gasification Plants that
produced synthetic fuel. 85% of German aviation ran off synthetics, as
did much of the German war machine in general.
The SS Scientific Branch further developed coal-burning powerplants as
well as exploring grain alcohol fuels, Hydrogen peroxide turbines, and
free energy machines like Hans Coler's designs as well as Schaubergers
vortex motors that ran off water, air, and a crystalline substance.
What you are quoting is pre-war oil sales to Germany and Germany's
strategic reserves during the opening of the war. As the war
progressed, however, Germany was dependent on synthetics, captured oil
fields, and coal burning engines. Some German Kubelwagens were even
converted over to coal burning engines while others were used to power
searchlights and run machinery.

Rob

p.s. After the war one of the German coal gasification plants was
actually transferred to Texas and research-operated for years before
being shut down and filed away by the US oil industry. Synthetics have
always been possible but the avg price of a barrel of synthetics is at
least double or triple the price of a barrel of crude oil. That's why
we are still dependent on foreign oil.

Germany wasnt the only nation to build large synthetic fuel
plants. ICI operated a number in the UKduring WW2.

Keith

True enough... yet Germany had the most advanced synthetic fuel
programs in the world by 1945.

Rob

Because they HAD to. They were cut off from all natural sources.

Al Minyard

Because they HAD to. They were cut off from all natural sources.

Al Minyard

Why could they have not just flown the oil in, say like in supersonic ME-262s,
or the Sanger bomber, or in Disc aircraft?




Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

On 20 Oct 2003 18:17:40 GMT, 362436 (Ron) wrote:

Because they HAD to. They were cut off from all natural sources.

Al Minyard

Why could they have not just flown the oil in, say like in supersonic ME-262s,
or the Sanger bomber, or in Disc aircraft?




Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

Well, I suppose they could have brought it in with their "Super XX|||
Sub. :-)

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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On 19 Oct 2003 15:11:17 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:



Because they HAD to. They were cut off from all natural sources.


Well yes and no

They started building those plants a long time before the war began
so as to be independent of foreign suppliers, memories of the
blockade of WW1 were doubtless a significant factor but
its worth recalling that similar plants were built in Britain which
wasnt cut off.

In those days both Germany and Britain had ample coal reserves
so being less reliant on foreign oil suppliers was seen as good
strategy.

Keith

Keith Willshaw wrote:
"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On 19 Oct 2003 15:11:17 -0700, (robert arndt)
wrote:



Because they HAD to. They were cut off from all natural sources.


Well yes and no

They started building those plants a long time before the war began
so as to be independent of foreign suppliers, memories of the
blockade of WW1 were doubtless a significant factor but
its worth recalling that similar plants were built in Britain which
wasnt cut off.

In those days both Germany and Britain had ample coal reserves
so being less reliant on foreign oil suppliers was seen as good
strategy.

What are we looking at now, supersonic coal-fired Me 262s

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