No Pseudo-Pilots

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Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes.

And what is a "real" airplane? A jet fighter? A Cessna 152? A UAV?
A remote-controlled model? A glider? A 747?

Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and
still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license.

What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and all
the visceral aspects of primitive flight? Listening to them, you'd
think there's nothing else to aviation.

Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is not.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why.

Safe pilots minimize risk. A risky flight is a flight conducted by an
incompetent pilot.

Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are in
danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign.

That management requires study,
discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally,
completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation.

You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a simulator.
The only reason this isn't done now is that there are still
regulatory obstacles to doing so. But that will change.

Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation.

Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and
discipline in piloting. If you cannot do things right unless you're
scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. The challenge is to do
things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because that's
when bad things usually happen.

If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here.

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion.

If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that
electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down and
fly it.

I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things
correctly and well.

Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more
than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary
information for flight in IMC.

I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight
controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the control
surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated.

Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much.

I have. The answer varies considerably.


Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit.

Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a
serious probelm with delusion.

Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. But then again,
flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either.

You're an idiot.

All airpanes work the same way.

On Jan 19, 9:46*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :





writes:

Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes.

And what is a "real" airplane? *A jet fighter? *A Cessna 152? *A UAV?
A remote-controlled model? *A glider? *A 747?

Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and
still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license.

What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and all
the visceral aspects of primitive flight? *Listening to them, you'd
think there's nothing else to aviation.

Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is not.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why.

Safe pilots minimize risk. *A risky flight is a flight conducted by an
incompetent pilot.

Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are in
danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign.

That management requires study,
discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally,
completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation.

You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a simulator.
*The only reason this isn't done now is that there are still
regulatory obstacles to doing so. *But that will change.

Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation.

Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and
discipline in piloting. *If you cannot do things right unless you're
scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. *The challenge is to do
things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because that's
when bad things usually happen.

If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here.

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion.

If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that
electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down and
fly it.

I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things
correctly and well.

Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more
than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary
information for flight in IMC.

I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight
controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the control
surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated.

Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much.

I have. *The answer varies considerably.

Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit.



Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a
serious probelm with delusion.

Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. *But then again,
flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either.

You're an idiot.

All airpanes work the same way.



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You are being too hard on the boy, Bertie. His ejaculation is real
ain't it? That's all that matters to him.

Wil

William Hung wrote in
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On Jan 19, 9:46*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
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writes:

Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes.

And what is a "real" airplane? *A jet fighter? *A Cessna 152? *A U
AV?
A remote-controlled model? *A glider? *A 747?

Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and
still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license.

What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and
all the visceral aspects of primitive flight? *Listening to them,
you'd think there's nothing else to aviation.

Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is
not.

You're entitled to your opinion.

Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why.

Safe pilots minimize risk. *A risky flight is a flight conducted by
an

incompetent pilot.

Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are
in danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign.

That management requires study,
discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally,
completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation.

You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a
simulator. *The only reason this isn't done now is that there are
still regulatory obstacles to doing so. *But that will change.

Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation.

Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and
discipline in piloting. *If you cannot do things right unless
you're scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. *The challenge is
to do things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because
that's when bad things usually happen.

If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here.

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion.

If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that
electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down
and fly it.

I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things
correctly and well.

Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more
than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary
information for flight in IMC.

I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight
controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the
control surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated.

Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much.

I have. *The answer varies considerably.

Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit.



Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a
serious probelm with delusion.

Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. *But then
again,

flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either.

You're an idiot.

All airpanes work the same way.



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You are being too hard on the boy, Bertie. His ejaculation is real
ain't it?


Not something I really wish to know about, thenkew..

That's all that matters to him.


Thanks for sharing!

Bertie