Chad Irby is a Liar

The facts:

I have approx. 1,230 posts logged in the Google archive.
Of these only 804 are displayed.
Chad claims the MAJORITY of my posts are German-related.
Here is an accurate hand-counted tally for 600 posts (there was no
need to go to the full 804 because you will see why in the numbers)

Group 100:
Other NG:3
Tl=97
German: 44
Tl= 53 other

Group 200:
Other NG: 10
Tl=90
German: 38
Tl= 52

Group 300:
Other NG: 1
Tl=99
German: 27
Tl= 72 other

Group 400:
Other NG: 0
Tl=100
German: 16
Tl= 84 other

Group 500:
Other NG: 0
Tl=100
German: 17
Tl= 83 other

Group 600:
Other NG: 40
Tl= 60
German: 13
Tl= 47 other


Grand Total for 600 posts:
Other NG: 54
Tl= 546
German: 155
Tl= 391 other

In other words just 28% of 600 posts are German-related. That's not
batting .500 Chad.
There is no need to research the other 204 posts because I was
involved more heavily in two other NGs at that time period as
evidenced by the 94 other NG posts out of the last 200 in groups 5 &
6.
Basically Chad is a liar and I resent his misrepresentation of me on
this NG.

Rob

p.s. For all those people who find my posts informative; to those whom
I've helped do research for; to those that like German AND foreign
equipment OT or not, I will continue to post as I always have. For
those who think I am some rabid neo-nazi fanatic please look at the
entire record. The pics of US aircraft alone I have posted is more
than any of the German content combined.
And I have not forgotten the UK, France, Sweden, Belgium, Italy,
Russia, Japan, Israel, South Africa, etc...

"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
The facts:

Don't worry about Irby.

Don't take things so personally, life is too short to worry what strangers
think.

Myc

"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
The facts:

I have approx. 1,230 posts logged in the Google archive.
Of these only 804 are displayed.
Chad claims the MAJORITY of my posts are German-related.
Here is an accurate hand-counted tally for 600 posts (there was no
need to go to the full 804 because you will see why in the numbers)

Group 100:
Other NG:3
Tl=97
German: 44
Tl= 53 other

Group 200:
Other NG: 10
Tl=90
German: 38
Tl= 52

Group 300:
Other NG: 1
Tl=99
German: 27
Tl= 72 other

Group 400:
Other NG: 0
Tl=100
German: 16
Tl= 84 other

Group 500:
Other NG: 0
Tl=100
German: 17
Tl= 83 other

Group 600:
Other NG: 40
Tl= 60
German: 13
Tl= 47 other


Grand Total for 600 posts:
Other NG: 54
Tl= 546
German: 155
Tl= 391 other

In other words just 28% of 600 posts are German-related. That's not
batting .500 Chad.
There is no need to research the other 204 posts because I was
involved more heavily in two other NGs at that time period as
evidenced by the 94 other NG posts out of the last 200 in groups 5 &
6.
Basically Chad is a liar and I resent his misrepresentation of me on
this NG.

Rob

p.s. For all those people who find my posts informative; to those whom
I've helped do research for; to those that like German AND foreign
equipment OT or not, I will continue to post as I always have. For
those who think I am some rabid neo-nazi fanatic please look at the
entire record. The pics of US aircraft alone I have posted is more
than any of the German content combined.
And I have not forgotten the UK, France, Sweden, Belgium, Italy,
Russia, Japan, Israel, South Africa, etc...

From: "Mycroft"

Don't take things so personally, life is too short to worry what strangers
think.

Reminds me of Rasimus and his favorite John Stuart Mill quote, which he wields
like a purse to flail away at various more or less ill-chosen targets.
It's obvious he doesn't know the context of the quote, or that it is part of a
very well-known essay that political philosophers and students of political
philosophy are very familiar with, as it deals with the problems victory in war
may create.
Mill's essay was prompted by the US provoking Britain during the early days of
the US Civil War, leading to the real possibility of Britain declaring war on
the US. During the course of the essay Mill looks at Britain's situation as
the leading power of the day. Should it suffer US provocation without
retaliation, go to war and possibly be defeated or suffer an otherwise
unsatisfactory solution? Or win and--what? Mill looks at the huge problems a
victory over the US, with all the advantages to the slave-holding Confederacy
that would bring, would create for Britain.
The essay is famous because it draws attention to the fact that even a
victorious war can cause vast negative consequences, and those consequences
must be carefully thought out before embarking on war. Sometimes, Mill
suggests, it is better to avoid war because the consequences not of defeat, but
victory, can be hugely detrimental to your fundamental goals as a nation.
Sometimes it may even be better to use "rough men" you don't approve of
fighting for their own aims to facilitate your own rather than go to war
yourself.
Considering events in Iraq and what may develop in coming years, Mill's essay
has been on the front burner of those who are serious about these matters.
Rasimus is, of course, unaware of all of this and reveals that fact, as well as
his general unfamiliarity with Mill, every time he trots out his out-of-context
quote.
But that's Usenet. At first you think it's a great way to enjoy discussions
and debates with interesting people. But soon enough you discover only a few
people are worth taking seriously and that most posters, should you meet them
in real life, you would cross the street to avoid.
Nonetheless, it holds a fascination, like looking at a traffic accident. Who
are these people, like the moron who thinks that Gar Alperovitz writing about
the Hiroshima bombing is straying outside his area of expertise (that gave me a
belly laugh), or the moron waving his potted John Stuart Mill quote (another
belly laugh). They are a daily goon show and saturday night live combined.
Tune in to usenet when you want a good laugh but don't take it seriously.
Although, once in a while you do meet a sane, knowledgeable person who has
stumbled by accident into the lunatic asylum. but don't expect that.


Chris Mark

"Chris Mark" wrote in message
...
From: "Mycroft"

Don't take things so personally, life is too short to worry what
strangers
think.

Reminds me of Rasimus and his favorite John Stuart Mill quote, which he
wields
like a purse to flail away at various more or less ill-chosen targets.
It's obvious he doesn't know the context of the quote, or that it is part
of a
very well-known essay that political philosophers and students of
political
philosophy are very familiar with, as it deals with the problems victory
in war
may create.
Mill's essay was prompted by the US provoking Britain during the early
days of
the US Civil War, leading to the real possibility of Britain declaring war
on
the US. During the course of the essay Mill looks at Britain's situation
as
the leading power of the day. Should it suffer US provocation without
retaliation, go to war and possibly be defeated or suffer an otherwise
unsatisfactory solution?

The War of 1812 had brought near total victory for thr Brits (except perhaps
the shallow water cannon battles in SC), but the retreat down the
Mississippi in 1815 had left many men on the street corners of London, with
missing limbs. Another expensive war with these United States was not
something the UK would take lightly and there were still people alive who
remembered those scairy men.

Or win and--what? Mill looks at the huge problems a
victory over the US, with all the advantages to the slave-holding
Confederacy
that would bring, would create for Britain.

Or perhaps the certain bitter taste of political defeat at home, once again.

The essay is famous because it draws attention to the fact that even a
victorious war can cause vast negative consequences, and those
consequences
must be carefully thought out before embarking on war. Sometimes, Mill
suggests, it is better to avoid war because the consequences not of
defeat, but
victory, can be hugely detrimental to your fundamental goals as a nation.
Sometimes it may even be better to use "rough men" you don't approve of
fighting for their own aims to facilitate your own rather than go to war
yourself.

Allways.

Considering events in Iraq and what may develop in coming years, Mill's
essay
has been on the front burner of those who are serious about these matters.
Rasimus is, of course, unaware of all of this and reveals that fact, as
well as
his general unfamiliarity with Mill, every time he trots out his
out-of-context quote.

Perhaps there is some irony related to the war Rasimus' generation didn't
win,that you have missed?

But that's Usenet. At first you think it's a great way to enjoy
discussions
and debates with interesting people. But soon enough you discover only a
few
people are worth taking seriously and that most posters, should you meet
them
in real life, you would cross the street to avoid.
Nonetheless, it holds a fascination, like looking at a traffic accident.
Who
are these people, like the moron who thinks that Gar Alperovitz writing
about
the Hiroshima bombing is straying outside his area of expertise (that gave
me a
belly laugh), or the moron waving his potted John Stuart Mill quote
(another
belly laugh). They are a daily goon show and saturday night live
combined.
Tune in to usenet when you want a good laugh but don't take it seriously.
Although, once in a while you do meet a sane, knowledgeable person who has
stumbled by accident into the lunatic asylum. but don't expect that.

Shafer compared the discussion to a bar and that is about the level of
bull****.

"Chris Mark" wrote in message
...
From: "Mycroft"

Don't take things so personally, life is too short to worry what
strangers
think.

Reminds me of Rasimus and his favorite John Stuart Mill quote, which he
wields
like a purse to flail away at various more or less ill-chosen targets.
It's obvious he doesn't know the context of the quote, or that it is part
of a
very well-known essay that political philosophers and students of
political
philosophy are very familiar with, as it deals with the problems victory
in war
may create.
Mill's essay was prompted by the US provoking Britain during the early
days of
the US Civil War, leading to the real possibility of Britain declaring war
on
the US. During the course of the essay Mill looks at Britain's situation
as
the leading power of the day. Should it suffer US provocation without
retaliation, go to war and possibly be defeated or suffer an otherwise
unsatisfactory solution? Or win and--what? Mill looks at the huge
problems a
victory over the US, with all the advantages to the slave-holding
Confederacy
that would bring, would create for Britain.
The essay is famous because it draws attention to the fact that even a
victorious war can cause vast negative consequences, and those
consequences
must be carefully thought out before embarking on war. Sometimes, Mill
suggests, it is better to avoid war because the consequences not of
defeat, but
victory, can be hugely detrimental to your fundamental goals as a nation.
Sometimes it may even be better to use "rough men" you don't approve of
fighting for their own aims to facilitate your own rather than go to war
yourself.
Considering events in Iraq and what may develop in coming years, Mill's
essay
has been on the front burner of those who are serious about these matters.
Rasimus is, of course, unaware of all of this and reveals that fact, as
well as
his general unfamiliarity with Mill, every time he trots out his
out-of-context
quote.
But that's Usenet. At first you think it's a great way to enjoy
discussions
and debates with interesting people. But soon enough you discover only a
few
people are worth taking seriously and that most posters, should you meet
them
in real life, you would cross the street to avoid.
Nonetheless, it holds a fascination, like looking at a traffic accident.
Who
are these people, like the moron who thinks that Gar Alperovitz writing
about
the Hiroshima bombing is straying outside his area of expertise (that gave
me a
belly laugh), or the moron waving his potted John Stuart Mill quote
(another
belly laugh). They are a daily goon show and saturday night live
combined.
Tune in to usenet when you want a good laugh but don't take it seriously.
Although, once in a while you do meet a sane, knowledgeable person who has
stumbled by accident into the lunatic asylum. but don't expect that.

All that wasted verbage, and you had nothing to say? Who gives a rat's ass
what the impetus behind Mill's essay was--the wording still holds water. I
guess you would also claim that the ten commandments are of little value
since they were handed down to Moses because of a particular situation
confronting the Israelites as they decamped from Egypt? Chris, I don't know
who the hell you were trying to impress with this little sideshow attack on
Ed, but you sure as heck did not acheive much, other than pointing out that
you are a windbag of the first order.

Brooks



Chris Mark

I don't know
who the hell you were trying to impress with this little sideshow attack on
Ed, but you sure as heck did not acheive much, other than pointing out that
you are a windbag of the first order.




Jesus God...*TWO* OF THEM NOW?!? groan
--

-Gord.

From: "Kevin Brooks"

I don't know
who the hell you were trying to impress with this little sideshow attack on
Ed,

Well, Rasimus attacked me with his misapplied Mill quote, which he wields
frequently, when I asked Kramer a tongue-in-cheek question. By the way, you
are the moron who thought Gar Alperovitz was straying outside his area of
expertise when he wrote about the Hiroshima bombing. I got a good solid belly
laugh out of that. It was so good I even passed it around to some people who
have asked what the value of reading Usenet is. The answer is humor, the Three
Stooges turned loose on computer keyboards.



Chris Mark

"Chris Mark" wrote in message
...
From: "Kevin Brooks"

I don't know
who the hell you were trying to impress with this little sideshow attack
on
Ed,

Well, Rasimus attacked me

snip

Two can play at the snip-a-lot-of-stuff-away game; for cryin' out loud, your
response is so far out of date that I deleted the thread days/weeks ago.
Next time you post one out of the Dark Ages file, leave enough info intact
to get the gist of the discussion...and BTW, acknowledging snippage is in
good taste (but has anyone accused you of having much of that?).

Brooks



Chris Mark

robert arndt wrote:

(snip)

Relax Robert. Your posts are sometimes interesting and often relate to
military aviation. Your views are eccentric but amusing.

Cut Chad some slack, it must be hard to justify some of the things he
has to. Killfile him if he bothers you.

HTH

John