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by Harry Dacre, 1892 There is a flower Within my heart, Daisy, Daisy! Planted one day By a glancing dart, Planted by Daisy Bell! Whether she loves me Or loves me not, Sometimes it's hard to tell; Yet I am longing to share the lot - Of beautiful Daisy Bell! Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you! It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage But you'll look sweet upon the seat Of a bicycle made for two. We will go 'tandem' As man and wife, Daisy, Daisy! 'Peddling' away Down the road of life, I and my Daisy Bell! When the road's dark We can both despise P'licemen and 'lamps' as well; There are 'bright lightsą In the dazzling eyes Of beautiful Daisy Bell! Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you! It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage But you'll look sweet upon the seat Of a bicycle made for two. I will stand by you In 'weal' or woe, ["weal" means prosperity] Daisy, Daisy! You'll be the bell(e) Which I'll ring you know! Sweet little Daisy Bell! You'll take the 'lead' In each 'trip' we take, Then if I don't do well, I will permit you to Use the brake, My beautiful Daisy Bell! -- Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either! I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor, just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that might kill someone. |
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On Mar 20, 4:46*am, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2vwes4 by Harry Dacre, 1892 There is a flower Within my heart, Daisy, Daisy! Planted one day By a glancing dart, Planted by Daisy Bell! Whether she loves me Or loves me not, Sometimes it's hard to tell; Yet I am longing to share the lot - Of beautiful Daisy Bell! Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you! It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage But you'll look sweet upon the seat Of a bicycle made for two. We will go 'tandem' As man and wife, Daisy, Daisy! 'Peddling' away Down the road of life, I and my Daisy Bell! When the road's dark We can both despise P'licemen and 'lamps' as well; There are 'bright lightsą In the dazzling eyes Of beautiful Daisy Bell! Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you! It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage But you'll look sweet upon the seat Of a bicycle made for two. I will stand by you In 'weal' or woe, ["weal" means prosperity] Daisy, Daisy! You'll be the bell(e) Which I'll ring you know! Sweet little Daisy Bell! You'll take the 'lead' In each 'trip' we take, Then if I don't do well, I will permit you to Use the brake, My beautiful Daisy Bell! -- Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either! I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor, just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that might kill someone. I was involved in the C-Band satellite revolution back in the late 70's/ early 80's during its start. If it were not for Mr Clark that would not have happened. In fact if you analyze life, alotof where mankind is today if a result of his visions. He was a great man.... Godspeed to him. Ben Haas www.haaspowerair.com N801BH |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:04:16 -0700 (PDT), stol wrote:
I was involved in the C-Band satellite revolution back in the late 70's/ early 80's during its start. If it were not for Mr Clark that would not have happened. In fact if you analyze life, alotof where mankind is today if a result of his visions. He was a great man.... Godspeed to him. Ben Haas www.haaspowerair.com N801BH He died in Sri Lanka and, as always, it was the 18th most places, the 19th where he was. Always ahead of us ![]() -- Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either! I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor, just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that might kill someone. |
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I read a lot of sci-fi as a kid and he was the best. Better writer
than Heinlin but not as prolific. He influenced many, many people I'm sure. -- We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. ~ Joseph Campbell |
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It's unfair to compare. I have an extensive collection of Sci-Fi, and I
often re-read the big three Heinlien was my first, Asimov was great but published some real crap when he got to believe his own hype, Clarke was the master of continuity and detail, both of the physical and spiritual. His worlds are the truest and best and he had the largest impact on the real world, far larger than Asimov. A great mind, and a great author. "Bob Fry" wrote in message ... I read a lot of sci-fi as a kid and he was the best. Better writer than Heinlin but not as prolific. He influenced many, many people I'm sure. -- We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us. ~ Joseph Campbell |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:34:24 -0300, Lawrence wrote:
It's unfair to compare. I have an extensive collection of Sci-Fi, and I often re-read the big three Heinlien was my first, Asimov was great but published some real crap when he got to believe his own hype, Clarke was the master of continuity and detail, both of the physical and spiritual. His worlds are the truest and best and he had the largest impact on the real world, far larger than Asimov. A great mind, and a great author. I was told that to best see Clarke's brilliance, read Heinlien. I never did. Got talked into Tolkein. Mistake, ymmv. -- Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either! I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor, just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that might kill someone. |
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![]() "WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message .. . I was told that to best see Clarke's brilliance, read Heinlien. I never did. Got talked into Tolkein. Mistake, ymmv. -- That's interesting, I'd never heard that before. I'm not sure that any of them is a true window into the others although it is likely that they were aware of each others work. Indeed each of Asimov and Clarke would insist that the other was a better writer. (Clarke-Asimov treaty). I reagrd them each as best generation SF writers. The next iteration of authors is good, but they seem somehow to lack the spark of true invention. The stuff today is uninspiring for the most part to me, strange when we have not truly discovered much, it seems they'd have more to work with as mankind discovers so many more questions. But I have no room to talk, I can't write at all. |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:34:24 -0300, "Lawrence" wrote:
"Bob Fry" wrote in message ... I read a lot of sci-fi as a kid and he was the best. Better writer than Heinlin but not as prolific. He influenced many, many people I'm sure. It's unfair to compare. I have an extensive collection of Sci-Fi, and I often re-read the big three Heinlien was my first, Asimov was great but published some real crap when he got to believe his own hype, Clarke was the master of continuity and detail, both of the physical and spiritual. His worlds are the truest and best and he had the largest impact on the real world, far larger than Asimov. A great mind, and a great author. My personal opinion is that Clarke fall excelled in the extrapolation of technology and predicting what the scientific/human impacts would be. However, the *people* in his novels always seemed pretty stiff. Heinlein was better with characterization; inventing interesting people to interact with the technology. The earliest Clarke novel I remember reading is "A Fall of Moondust," as a Reader's Digest Condensed book back in the '50s or '60s. Though I read it many times and remember the plot real well, I remember little about the characters. But I can see a Heinlein title and say, "That's the one with the guy who...." Ron Wanttaja |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:34:31 -0700, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
My personal opinion is that Clarke fall excelled in the extrapolation of technology and predicting what the scientific/human impacts would be. However, the *people* in his novels always seemed pretty stiff. Heinlein was better with characterization; inventing interesting people to interact with the technology. Reading Clarke, in the early 60s I thought that was the way the advanced, scientific community, ultimately the populace, was to be. Focused, time concerned, mission oriented. When I watched 2001 (1970?), the characters were wooden, almost unreal. The emotional star was a computer, I took from these characterizations that this was the world I would grow old and accustomed. Analytical and godless. The earliest Clarke novel I remember reading is "A Fall of Moondust," as a Reader's Digest Condensed book back in the '50s or '60s. Though I read it many times and remember the plot real well, I remember little about the characters. But I can see a Heinlein title and say, "That's the one with the guy who...." Ron Wanttaja My first Clarke was a RD and it set RD apart from all other subscription magazines at the time. From then to here, RD jokes and articles to email, globalization of communication. I know for a fact that my own fascination with the future, and interest in technologies, spawned directly from the works of Clarke and those like him. -- |
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On Mar 21, 9:34 pm, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
My personal opinion is that Clarke fall excelled in the extrapolation of technology and predicting what the scientific/human impacts would be. However, the *people* in his novels always seemed pretty stiff. Heinlein was better with characterization; inventing interesting people to interact with the technology. That's an interesting observation because my feeling about Heinein was that he had about four characters altogether. He'd insert them in every story in the ways that they needed to be used to keep the tale moving. That's what made them so much fun to read when I was 12 or so, I suppose. The earliest Clarke novel I remember reading is "A Fall of Moondust," as a Reader's Digest Condensed book back in the '50s or '60s. Though I read it many times and remember the plot real well, I remember little about the characters. But I can see a Heinlein title and say, "That's the one with the guy who...." My first was the probably "Island in the Sky," but I read "A Fall of Moondust" and would love to have that RDCB version because of the illustrations. It would make a good movie. And I remember clearly NONE of the "Moondust" characters, but the characters in "Island" I will never forget. I felt like I knew the crew of "Rocket Ship Galileo," but all I remember of other Heinlein characters is the Martian flatcat. Neither of them wrote about aviation, did they? Sci-fi was always space. Mike |
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