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Don't know if this well known already but
I hadn't seen it before. http://www.aviation-safety-security....ive-study.html It is a somewhat uncomplimentary (to the overseeing bodies) review of aviation piston engine reliability. |
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On Apr 1, 7:08*am, wrote:
Don't know if this well known already but I hadn't seen it before. http://www.aviation-safety-security....ter/articles/c... It is a somewhat uncomplimentary (to the overseeing bodies) review of aviation piston engine reliability. It is a 'publish or perish' piece yawn... It does not add anything to what is known... Yes, sudden, catastrophic, engine failures with no warning happen, but they are the exception... The vast majority of sick engines complain loud and long, and it is the dumb **** pilots who sit there - on their brains - until the poor, gasping, struggling, engine finally comes apart... Best you find something more likely to get all worked up about - like getting hit by a meteor... cheers eh wot denny |
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On Apr 1, 7:52*am, Denny wrote:
It does not add anything to what is known... Few reviews of existing information ever do. Yes, sudden, catastrophic, engine failures with no warning happen, but they are the exception... The vast majority of sick engines complain loud and long, and it is the dumb **** pilots who sit there - on their brains - until the poor, gasping, struggling, engine finally comes apart... I've heard that statement before - and it does not ring true. Mostly I hear it from pilots who spend a lot of time banking on the engine - flying single engine planes at night, in IMC, over water or rought terrain, at low altitudes, etc. I suppose if you're going to do that, you have to believe it or have a fairly cavalier attitude about serious injury or death. The reality is that the warning signs are often subtle or non-existent until the last few minutes, the instrumentation for monitoring engine health and performance is often inadequate, the potential for engine damage by control misuse high in all but the smallest and least powerful of the engines, and there are an awful lot of unexplained failures out there. Most of the people I know who have more than 2000 hours in GA have had at least one engine failure. In my experience, that 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 10,000 number the FAA provides is right on. It squares with my experience and the experience of my friends. Also, in my opinion as a practicing engineer, most of those failures are primarily the result of designs that are poorly thought out to begin with - perhaps state of the art by 1940's standards and acceptable by 1960's standards, but now woefully behind the times. In fact, I would say probably the biggest factor keeping the failures common is the overly difficult and costly process that the FAA imposes for adding new technology to these old beasts. Michael |
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In my experience, that 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 10,000 number the FAA
provides is right on. *It squares with my experience and the experience of my friends. My primary flight instructor: 4 engine failures in 4500 hours flying. Dead stick each time. Twice in pattern. Once off airport landing, once got lucky and managed to glide to a nearby airport. |
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those are interesting numbers. I went thru our log books. We never had
an engine shut down, but find in what we think is a well maintained Mooney M20 an unplanned landing about once every 500 hours for some form of failure. A bank of spark plugs fail, causing the engine to go rough, a vacuum pump failure, an alternator, things like that. That's in 3000 hours total time. This airplane is flown gently, though -- wait, maybe not: usually at low RPMs, well leaned, so those 3000 tach hours understate actual time. I hope others post their actual experience. On Apr 1, 10:24*pm, wrote: In my experience, that 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 10,000 number the FAA provides is right on. *It squares with my experience and the experience of my friends. My primary flight instructor: 4 engine failures in 4500 hours flying. Dead stick each time. Twice in pattern. Once off airport landing, once got lucky and managed to glide to a nearby airport. |
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I must be the exception, in 3700 hours the worst mechanical failure i
have had is the retaining nut coming off of an intake valve effectively killing one cylinder. Still flew back the airport for a normal landing. I don't count the time the throttle cable came disconnected on the towplane the was pulling me. It didn't come off until after I released. Of course about 700 of those 3700 hours are in a gliders (non-self launch), engine failures are extremely rare in them. Brian CFIIG/ASEL |
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