American disc aircraft

The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance Vought V-173
first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and was
apparently impossible to stall. The Navy ordered two XF5U-1 which didn't get
their propellers until 1947 and were not proceded with since the Navy decided
jets were the way to go.

This brings 2 questions to mind.

1) if jets hadn't been successful that early would the aircraft have found a
militarily justifiable purpuse?

2) as thin as the saucer was what kind of useful payload could be expected?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

This brings 2 questions to mind.

1) if jets hadn't been successful that early would the aircraft have found a
militarily justifiable purpuse?

2) as thin as the saucer was what kind of useful payload could be expected?


Dan, by luck I happen to have my V-173 file out on my scanner to copy for a
Brit making a 1/2 scale flying model. One thing to note is that the disc was
NOT thin at all and there was a vast amount of internal space - plenty of room
for a decent bomb-bay or weapons if a warplane variant was to be coaxed out of
this technology study. What I always wondered is why this design wasn't
altered to use Jumo 004s embedded in the wings like the Horten?

Oh, yeah, thats because Jumos sucked

v/r
Gordon
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USN SAR

Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a
reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone.

(Krztalizer)
Date: 2/20/2004 12:33 PM Central Standard Time
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This brings 2 questions to mind.

1) if jets hadn't been successful that early would the aircraft have found a
militarily justifiable purpuse?

2) as thin as the saucer was what kind of useful payload could be expected?


Dan, by luck I happen to have my V-173 file out on my scanner to copy for a
Brit making a 1/2 scale flying model. One thing to note is that the disc was
NOT thin at all and there was a vast amount of internal space - plenty of
room
for a decent bomb-bay or weapons if a warplane variant was to be coaxed out
of
this technology study. What I always wondered is why this design wasn't
altered to use Jumo 004s embedded in the wings like the Horten?

Oh, yeah, thats because Jumos sucked

v/r
Gordon

All jet engines do.

Actually the prop wash was supposed to help its STOL characteristics.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message ...

This brings 2 questions to mind.

1) if jets hadn't been successful that early would the aircraft have found a
militarily justifiable purpuse?

2) as thin as the saucer was what kind of useful payload could be expected?


Dan, by luck I happen to have my V-173 file out on my scanner to copy for a
Brit making a 1/2 scale flying model. One thing to note is that the disc was
NOT thin at all and there was a vast amount of internal space - plenty of room
for a decent bomb-bay or weapons if a warplane variant was to be coaxed out of
this technology study. What I always wondered is why this design wasn't
altered to use Jumo 004s embedded in the wings like the Horten?

Nice article in the Air Enthusiast of June 1973 (Vol 4 No 6) of the program.

Eugene

"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...

Oh, yeah, thats because Jumos sucked

Well, you're sorta right Gord.

The problem with Jumos was that after about 5 hours or so they *stopped*
sucking..... :^)

The CO

"B2431"
The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance Vought
V-173
first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and was
apparently impossible to stall.

AVRO Canada experimented with a flying saucer type design in the 1950s.
This was funded in part by the USAF. It was known as the Avrocar. It was
abandoned as I guess technology had not been developed (i.e. computer flight
control systems etc) for controlling successful flight. Do a search with
'google' for "AVRO Flying Saucer" if you want to read more about this
project.
Ed Majden

"B2431"
The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance Vought
V-173
first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and was
apparently impossible to stall.

Thats impossible, since WW2 had not ended yet, and therefore we had not had the
chance to steal the Nazi Uber-technology, which was of course the only way us
American simpletons could have ever had developed it.




Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

From: 362436 (Ron)


"B2431"
The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance Vought
V-173 first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and
was apparently impossible to stall.

Thats impossible, since WW2 had not ended yet, and therefore we had not had
the chance to steal the Nazi Uber-technology, which was of course the only way
us American simpletons could have ever had developed it.
Ron

Hah!!! You fool!!! You forgot that the secret cabal of Illuminati, that has
bent the US government to their own evil purposes, has its own group of pyschic
channelers who were working at that time to divine the saucer secrets from the
Aryan aliens of Aldebaran. Several of racially impure sub-human types amongst
the aliens let the saucer secrets slip to the US channelers. But fortunately,
they were all caught and hung on meat hooks by the Aldebaran Gestapo before
leaking enough information to bring the US into technical parity with the Nazi
supermen.
Dave

From: (Dav1936531)


From: 362436 (Ron)


"B2431"
The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance Vought
V-173 first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and
was apparently impossible to stall.

Thats impossible, since WW2 had not ended yet, and therefore we had not had
the chance to steal the Nazi Uber-technology, which was of course the only
way
us American simpletons could have ever had developed it.
Ron

Hah!!! You fool!!! You forgot that the secret cabal of Illuminati, that has
bent the US government to their own evil purposes, has its own group of
pyschic
channelers who were working at that time to divine the saucer secrets from
the
Aryan aliens of Aldebaran. Several of racially impure sub-human types amongst
the aliens let the saucer secrets slip to the US channelers. But fortunately,
they were all caught and hung on meat hooks by the Aldebaran Gestapo before
leaking enough information to bring the US into technical parity with the
Nazi
supermen.
Dave

Geeze, now the SS from the secret underwater antarctic base will hunt you down.
They will take you to Area 51, remove your tinfoil hat and force you to read
"Catcher in the Rye." You are doomed, DOOMED.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Ed Majden" wrote in message
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"B2431"
The U.S. built and flew a few disc aircraft during WW2. The Chance
Vought
V-173
first flew 23 November 1942, which had excellent STOL capabilities and
was
apparently impossible to stall.

AVRO Canada experimented with a flying saucer type design in the 1950s.
This was funded in part by the USAF. It was known as the Avrocar. It was
abandoned as I guess technology had not been developed (i.e. computer
flight
control systems etc) for controlling successful flight. Do a search with
'google' for "AVRO Flying Saucer" if you want to read more about this
project.
Ed Majden

One of those is on display at the Ft. Eustis, Virginia, Transportation
Museum.
http://www.avroarrow.org/Avrocar/Avrocar3.html
http://www.davidpride.com/Army/us_ft_eustis_04.htm

Pete