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Old October 6th 08, 08:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stella Starr
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It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my
reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.

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Old October 6th 08, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"Stella Starr" wrote in message
. ..
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my reaction
was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.


The funny part was the crew blamed it on ATC, as usual.

One of the more amusing happenings on the radio I heard about went something
like this:

The south approach into DAL is a bit hairy due to the routing necessary to
avoid the DFW traffic. The captain of a 737 (United I believe) was a bit
perturbed with the approach he was given. He noted on frequency, "You guys
should get the controllers over at Denver to show you how to control
traffic." To which the controller fired back, "You guys at United should
get Southwest to show you how to fly a 737."

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Old October 6th 08, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Darkwing
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"Stella Starr" wrote in message
. ..
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my reaction
was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around on a
commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a "go around"
is and why they are typically made.


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Old October 7th 08, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ash Wyllie
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Darkwing opined

"Stella Starr" wrote in message
...
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my reaction
was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around on a
commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a "go around"
is and why they are typically made.


I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember which) back in the
80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



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Old October 7th 08, 03:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in
:

Darkwing opined

"Stella Starr" wrote in message
m...
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing.
Had it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my
reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of
anything dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon.
IMHO it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in
an educational article free from sensationalism or disaster
references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around
on a commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a
"go around" is and why they are typically made.


I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember which)
back in the 80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



Once in many hundreds or thousands is more like it. I think I have done
two in the last five years... Both on ILS's


Bertie
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Old October 7th 08, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in
:

Darkwing opined

"Stella Starr" wrote in message
om...
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing.
Had it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my
reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of
anything dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon.
IMHO it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in
an educational article free from sensationalism or disaster
references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around
on a commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a
"go around" is and why they are typically made.


I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember which)
back in the 80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



Once in many hundreds or thousands is more like it. I think I have done
two in the last five years... Both on ILS's


When the winds (especially x-winds) pick up, the number increases
significantly. A few months ago I saw two different DC-10s go around at the
same airport on the same day.

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Old October 7th 08, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Ash Wyllie" wrote in
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Darkwing opined

"Stella Starr" wrote in message
news:PvGdnbAN1shT9HfVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast. com...
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a
landing. Had it happen once, and as we powered up for the
go-around at DFW my reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of
anything dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much
jargon. IMHO it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation
subject in an educational article free from sensationalism or
disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go
around on a commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea
what a "go around" is and why they are typically made.

I was on a go around, or a missed approach (I don't remember which)
back in the 80s going into Logan. Once in maybe a hundred flights.

Doesn't happen often, and it was a real suprise.



Once in many hundreds or thousands is more like it. I think I have
done two in the last five years... Both on ILS's


When the winds (especially x-winds) pick up, the number increases
significantly. A few months ago I saw two different DC-10s go around
at the same airport on the same day.



Yeah. That can do it, too.

the old saw is that each approach is an approach to a go around, A
landing off of it is a bonus..


Bertie
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Old October 7th 08, 03:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gene Seibel
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On Oct 6, 2:42*pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"Stella Starr" wrote in message

. ..

It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my reaction
was "Hmph. *How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.


http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/


"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."


In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.


I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around on a
commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a "go around"
is and why they are typically made.


Was on a 747 going into Honolulu that did a go around for traffic on
the runway. Seemed kind of unexpected or almost ironic to spend 4
hours flying across an ocean and then not land.
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Old October 7th 08, 08:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
JGalban via AviationKB.com
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Darkwing wrote:

I have flown quite a bit commercial but never experienced a go around on a
commercial flight. I'm sure most passengers have no idea what a "go around"
is and why they are typically made.


I used to spend a lot of time on the PHX ramp when I based my plane there.
Big Iron go arounds were not that unusual. With only two parallel runways
and two large carriers (Am West, Southwest) trying to turn around all their
planes simultaneously, it was often a madhouse. Topping the list of go-
around causes were jets that had been given (and acknowledged) an immediate
takeoff clearance, then dawdled after taking the active. Next was winds/dust
storms from the summer monsoon.

Although I had to often go around because of jet traffic ahead, I never saw
a case where a small GA forced an airliner around (although I'm sure it must
have happened occasionally). We little guys were always on our best
behavior.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old October 6th 08, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Stella Starr wrote:
It's about being in a commercial airliner when they abort a landing. Had
it happen once, and as we powered up for the go-around at DFW my
reaction was "Hmph. How 'bout that."
Didn't realize some folks might freak at such an incident.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot293/

"In fact, go-arounds are fairly common and seldom the result of anything
dangerous..."

In general, a good general-consumer column without too much jargon. IMHO
it's a good idea now and then to mention an aviation subject in an
educational article free from sensationalism or disaster references.


Try 30 or 40 touch and go's riding in the bottom of a B-52
right next to the **** can sloshing by your left leg and it
around 120 degrees in the airplane or..........

Freezing your ass off in a C-141 when you can see your breath
and it's so loud you can't ****ing hear and the load master is a dick
head and won't let you smoke and they are out of coffee and the honey
bucket is backed up oozing **** and blue water

People who fly commercial are clueless
 




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