This made me chuckle. . .

From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

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Scott Ferrin wrote:

From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"

Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Gee, what a great idea!

They could, you know, put bombers and such in it.

And then, later, they could have another one with fighters, and use it
for smaller-scale um, what's the word... *tactical* operations.

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In article ,
Scott Ferrin wrote:

From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"

Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Gee, what a great idea!

They could, you know, put bombers and such in it.

And then, later, they could have another one with fighters, and use it
for smaller-scale um, what's the word... *tactical* operations.

Well, it is just about time for the next re-org. The Chief of Staff needs
an OPR bullet.

On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
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From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.

Specified commands still exist as well; FORSCOM in the Army, and I believe
ACC would qualify in the USAF.

Brooks



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

Kevin Brooks wrote:

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.

Specified commands still exist as well; FORSCOM in the Army, and I believe
ACC would qualify in the USAF.

It's been a long time for me, but I'd put Space command in
the "specified" category. ACC is just shaky old TAC with
bigger bombers.

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.

Specified commands still exist as well; FORSCOM in the Army, and I believe
ACC would qualify in the USAF.

Brooks

Partially true Brooks. Specified Commands still exist in theory, they are
part of the Unified Command Plan, but there are none of them "stood up".
Look at the link below for an explanation of the current structure.

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/unifiedcommand/

Cheers,

Jim

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.


Ed Rasimus

According to Aviation Week (April 12 2004 issue, page 23), it's not a Joint
Staff initiative but rather an AF plan. The USAF is considering reshuffling
it's commands to better provide forces for US STRATCOM. Currently, 8th AF
provides much of the manpower and equipment for use by STRATCOM and for
reasons unstated in the article, they think creating a new command,
"AFStrat", (Air Force Strategic Command) would do a better job than 8th AF.
This has nothing to do with the Unified Command Plan in a structural sense,
it's all about the AF performing it's role in manning/training/equipping the
units that serve the combatant (Unified/Specified)commands. Just a guess,
but maybe the bombers that are still nuclear capable would move from 8th to
AFStrat under this plan.

Cheers,

JB

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.

Specified commands still exist as well; FORSCOM in the Army, and I
believe
ACC would qualify in the USAF.

Brooks

Partially true Brooks. Specified Commands still exist in theory, they are
part of the Unified Command Plan, but there are none of them "stood up".
Look at the link below for an explanation of the current structure.

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/unifiedcommand/

Cheers,

Actually, I am a bit familiar with that site, but to my knowledge it says
nothing about specified commands existing only in 'theory". FORSCOM remains
a specified command, and IIRC like some other specified commands (i.e.,
ACC), it also serves as the component command HQ for Unified Commands as
required (i.e., NORTHCOM). Unified commands are nothing new, and AFAIK
nothing has yet written the demise of the specified commands that have
existed alongside them (or more accurately, depending upon the current
situation, under them).

Brooks


Jim

"Dweezil Dwarftosser" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:15:51 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:



From this week's AW&ST

"Air Force May Form Strategic Command"


Would that also be known as "Strategic Air Command" with the
associated acronym of SAC?

Actually, it is a review of the "unified" command structure,
considering combining of the recently established Northern Command
with the long existing Southern Command to form a sort of N/S America
continental command. Other unified commands include Eucom, Pacom and
Centcom for examples.

Strategic Air Command was a "specified" command which gave it a
separate status from the operational control of the unified commands.
The other specified command was MAC.

Specified commands still exist as well; FORSCOM in the Army, and I
believe
ACC would qualify in the USAF.

It's been a long time for me, but I'd put Space command in
the "specified" category. ACC is just shaky old TAC with
bigger bombers.

Nope. Space Command merged with Strategic Command a year or two back, coming
under the STRATCOM banner (which is a unified command).

Brooks