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Old April 11th 04, 07:28 PM
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A Flag is not a Blindfold
Are Americans The Victims Of A Hoax?
by Michael Rivero

The time has come to stop using the flag as a blindfold, to stop
waving our guns and our gods at each other, to take a close look at
the facts which have emerged from the attacks on the World Trade
Towers and to recognize the very real possibility, indeed probability,
that We The People are the victims of a gigantic and deadly hoax.

In a normal terrorist event, the terrorists cannot wait to take
credit, in order to link the violence to the socio-political intent of
the terrorist organization. Yet the prime suspect in the New York
Towers case, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden (whose brother is one of
George W. Bush's Texas business partners), has issued only two
statements regarding the September 11th attacks, and both of those are
denials of any involvement.

Huge problems are emerging in the official view of events. It's known
that the United States was planning an invasion of Afghanistan long
before the attacks on the World Trade Towers.[1] Indeed the attacks on
the World Trade Towers perfectly fit the timetable of an invasion by
October stated by US officials just last summer.

The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by the FBI don't point to
Afghanistan. They come from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates;
all across the middle east without a focus in any one region. Indeed,
even as the FBI was admitting that its list of 19 names was based
solely on identifications thought to have been forged, Saudi Arabia's
Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal insisted that an investigation
in Saudi Arabia showed that the 5 Saudi men were not aboard the four
jetliners that crashed in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on
September 11. "It was proved that five of the names included in the
FBI list had nothing to do with what happened," Al-Faisal told the
Arabic Press in Washington after meeting with U.S. President George W.
Bush at the White House. A sixth identified hijacker is also reported
to still be alive in Tunisia, while a 7th named man died two years
ago!

In a recent development, the BBC is reporting that the transcript of a
phone call made by Stewardess Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air
traffic controls shows that the stewardess gave the seat numbers
occupied by the hijackers, seat numbers which were not the seats of
the men the FBI claimed were responsible for the hijacking![2]

FBI Chief Robert Mueller admitted on September 20 and on September 27
that at this time the FBI has no legal proof to prove the true
identities of the suicidal hijackers. Yet in the haste to move forward
on the already planned war in Afghanistan, our government and the FBI
(which does not have the best record for honesty in investigations to
begin with, having been caught rigging lab tests, manufacturing
testimony in the Vincent Foster affair, and illegally
withholding/destroying evidence in the Oklahoma Bombing case) are not
taking too close a look at evidence that points away from the
designated suspect, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.

In particular, the FBI, too busy harassing political dissenters to
find spies in its midst, the long rumored mole inside the White House,

LOL!! The WH is riddled with moles - and none dare call it treason.

or plug leaks in high-tech flowing to foreign nations, has willfully
and criminally ignored the implications of some vital pieces of
information the FBI is itself waving around at the public.

We are being told that this crack team of terrorists, able to breeze
past airport security as if it wasn't there, wound up leaving so much
evidence in its wake that the bumbling Inspector Clouseau (or the FBI)
could not fail to stumble over it. The locations where the terrorists
supposedly stayed are so overloaded with damning materials that they
resemble less a crimes scene, and more a "B" detective movie set, with
vital clues always on prominent display for the cameras.

Yet another problem lies with the described actions of the hijackers
themselves. We are being told on the one hand that these men were such
fanatical devotees of their faith that they willingly crashed the jets
they were flying into buildings. Yet on the other hand, we are being
told that these same men spent the night before their planned visit to
Allah drinking in strip bars, committing not just one, but two mortal
sins which would keep them out of Paradise no matter what else they
did. Truly devout Muslims would spend the day before a suicide attack
fasting and praying. Not only does the drinking in strip bars not fit
the profile of a fanatically religious Muslim willing to die for his
cause, but the witness reports of the men in the bars are of men going
out of their way to be noticed and remembered, while waving around
phony identifications.

Because of the facts of the phony identifications, we don't really
know who was on those planes. What we do know is that the men on those
planes went to a great deal of trouble to steal the identities of
Muslims, and to make sure those identities were seen and remembered,
then to leave a plethora of planted clues around, such as crop dusting
manuals, and letters in checked baggage (why does a terrorist about to
die need to check baggage?) that "somehow" didn't get on the final,
fatal, flight.

Fake terror is nothing new.[3] According to recently released files,
our government planned Operation Northwoods to stage phony terror
attacks against American citizens in the wake of the Bay Of Pigs, to
anger Americans into support for a second invasion of Cuba.[4] The
plan was spiked by JFK. If our government has ever actually carried
out such plans to stage phony terror attacks, the documents have
remained classified. But given the reality of Operation Northwoods, or
the manner in which FDR manuevered Japan into attacking Pearl
Harbor[5], one cannot rule out the possibility that, once again, the
people of the United States are being lied to by their own government,
to manufacture consent for a war of invasion already being discussed
with other nations the previous summer.

It is also quite possible, indeed likely, that the United States is
being spoofed by a third party to trigger a war. It has happened
before. According to Victor Ostrovsky, a defector from Israel's secret
service, Mossad, Israel decided to mount a false-flag operation
designed to further discredit Libya, and provoke the US to attack an
Arab nation.[6] A transmitter loaded with pre-recorded messages was
planted in Tripoli, Libya, by a Mossad team. The `Trojan Horse' beamed
out fake messages about Libyan-authorized bombings and planned attacks
that were immediately intercepted by US electronic monitoring.
Convinced by this disinformation that Libya was behind the 1986
bombing of a Berlin disco in which a US soldier died, President Ronald
Reagan ordered massive air attacks on Libya, including an obvious- and
illegal(under US law) attempt to assassinate Qadaffi himself. Some 100
Libyan civilians were killed, including Qadaffi's two year old
daughter. Libyan officials had no idea why they were attacked.

It is worth remembering the motto of the Mossad is, "By way of
deception, thou shalt do war."

Whether they were involved in the attacks or not, it cannot be doubted
that Israel has benefited from the attacks in New York. While world
attention is focused on what the US will do in Afghanistan, Israel has
escalated its attacks against Palestinians towns. Israel has
repeatedly tried to claim that Palestinians were involved in the New
York attacks, hoping to bury the Palestinian cause under the rubble of
the World Trade Towers. Because of the faked IDs and stolen
identities, we don't really know who planned the World Trade Towers
attacks. We only know who they wanted us to blame.

And we know that the United States has been tricked in the past into
bombing someone who did not deserve the attack, and that those who
were bombed then embarked on what from their point of view was
justified retaliation that culminated over Lockerbie. And while bombs
were falling and planes were crashing, Israel was laughing at us that
we had been so easily fooled into bombing Israel's targets for them.

Are we being hoaxed again, by Israel, or by our own government, or by
both? It's impossible to rule that out. Right now there are a lot of
people who want war. Oil companies want Afghanistan's petroleum
products. Our corporations want "friendlier" markets. The CIA wants
all that opium. And all those war-mongers, with all their greed and
agendas, will not hesitate in the least to pour your tax dollars and
your children's blood all over Afghanistan, to get those "friendlier"
markets, oil, and opium.

Because of the vested interests at work here, American citizens must,
more than at any other time in recent history, rely on themselves to
decide what is happening in our nation. Too many of those who purport
to report the "truth" to us are eager to grab more tax money and more
children to pour into a war of invasion, poised at a region which has
swallowed up every army that has tried to conquer it since the time of
Alexander The Great.


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Old April 14th 04, 01:22 AM
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Osama Bin Laden (whose brother is one of
George W. Bush's Texas business partners), has issued only two
statements regarding the September 11th attacks, and both of those are
denials of any involvement.


Bull****. On another tape he is heard marveling at how the towers fell in that
it was not something he had anticipated happening.

Bin Laden has about 30 brothers, so what?

The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by the FBI don't point to
Afghanistan. They come from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates;


Al Queda recruits from all over the Muslim world. Al Queda practically ran
Afghanistan through the puppet state of the Taliban. This is widely known.

or plug leaks in high-tech flowing to foreign nations,


Petty tough for the FBI to do when the last President was selling high tech for
campaign cash.

We are being told that this crack team of terrorists, able to breeze
past airport security as if it wasn't there,


Prior to 9/11 it wasn't there. These guys did nothing illegal on 9/11 until
they hijacked the aircraft.

wound up leaving so much
evidence in its wake that the bumbling Inspector Clouseau (or the FBI)
could not fail to stumble over it. The locations where the terrorists
supposedly stayed are so
overloaded with damning materials that they
resemble less a crimes scene, and more a "B" detective movie set,


This was a one time operation. What did they care if they left anything
behind. The nature of the operation was such that they knew it could never be
duplicated in the same way.

Truly devout Muslims would spend the day before a suicide attack
fasting and praying.


That is not how they do it in Lebanon or Israel. They typically get them high
on coke and bring in foriegn whores for them to use. These so called muslims
are just as twisted as many religous fanatics here of all stripes.

(why does a terrorist about to
die need to check baggage?) that "somehow" didn't get on the final,
fatal, flight.


Because the whole point of was to get on the planes in the most ordinary manner
possible thus calling no attention to themselves. Even prior to 9/11 one point
of attention for security was people travelling without baggage. Since they
didn't know the baggage would miss the flight they didn't care what was in it.

the manner in which FDR manuevered Japan into attacking Pearl
Harbor


Oh, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

President Ronald
Reagan ordered massive air attacks on Libya, including an obvious- and
illegal(under US law) attempt to assassinate Qadaffi himself. Some 100
Libyan civilians were killed, including Qadaffi's two year old
daughter. Libyan officials had no idea why they were attacked.


Bull****. Libya was neck deep in supporting terrorism then. Reagan's attacks
have kept Quaddafi quiet for nearly twenty years and Bush's attacks have
convinced him to abandon that line of endeavor. Pretty good results.

Oil companies want Afghanistan's petroleum
products.


Pretty good trick for a country that has to import most all of its petroleum
products.

Too many of those who purport
to report the "truth" to us are eager to grab more tax money and more
children to pour into a war of invasion, poised at a region which has
swallowed up every army that has tried to conquer it since the time of
Alexander The Great.


I would think the Ottoman Turks did pretty well, the British certainly
dominated that region for a hundred years, the Russians would still be in
Afghanistan if only Gorbachev had a pair of balls and real money to spend.

Two countries occupied and one taking itself out of the terrorism business and
all for fewer killed than are typically in murdered in a year in two of our
largest cities and tens of thousands less than those who die in traffic
accidents in a year.

There are problems to be addressed. It is time we stopped trying so
desperately to avoid insulting Iraqis. If they don't want their mosques in
ruins let them keep the terrorists out. Otherwise they should be fair game if
there are terrorists inside. We need to spend more money on the military and
not play the shell game of cancelling projects in order to finance the war.
The terrorists that survive will try different and new things and we need to
anticipate what they might do and prepare for it. We need to make it clearer
to all Muslims that they need to to come together long enough to find a
consensus in the Koran or the Prophets writings that they can and should leave
us alone and that they can criticize those fanatics that pervert the Koran (It
is a religion of peace isn't it?) in order to attack us. If Muslims can't see
a way to prevent this scourge conducted in thier name then after the next
attacks on the US the reality will be that all Muslims will be tarred with the
same brush.

There are a billion Muslims and most estimates are that 10% or 20% want to kill
us all and 98% of the rest won't lift a finger to help us. That has to change
or we will change it for them.

John Dupre'

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Old April 15th 04, 03:01 PM
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Cub Driver wrote:
On 14 Apr 2004 00:22:46 GMT,
(JDupre5762) wrote:

the manner in which FDR manuevered Japan into

attacking Pearl
Harbor


Oh, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!


John, I admire your preserverence in answering
this stuff, but in fact
the FDR arragned Pearl Harbor (or at least knew
about it) is a rather
common belief. William Manchester, who wrote
a very good biography of
MacArthur, also wrote a memoir of his own role
in the Pacific War. In
doing so, he visits Pearl etc, and he makes
the nearly-flat statement
that Washington knew about the raid in advance.
So here's a brilliant
writer, then professor at Wesleyan, and careful
and convincing
biographer, coming out with the great myth of
1941.

Not to mention the JFK assassination (by the
CIA, wasn't it?).

9/11 is certain to come to the same end. The
holes in the argument are
obvious to us, because the events are so vivid,
but they won't be
obvious to the next generation.



all the best -- Dan Ford
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You'd be suprised at the number of PH conspiracy theories: I had to look
at them as a grad student in a Historigraphy course. All sorts of wild claims
with little evidence to back them up. Some of those making the claims had
made similar statements about the U.S. entry into World War I as well. Gordon
Prange demolished them pretty thoroughly in his books.

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