Seaplane rating

Wouldn't a pilot flying a seaplane with only a ASEL showing in the FAA
Registry be in violation?



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Dallas

Dallas™ wrote:
Wouldn't a pilot flying a seaplane with only a ASEL showing in the FAA
Registry be in violation?

Depends on the certification of the seaplane. If it's experimental, he
doesn't need the rating to fly solo.

Ron Wanttaja

On 28 Nov 2008 14:20:43 GMT, Clark wrote:

Not necessarily. The Registry is always a little out of date. The pilot could
be ASES for a couple or three months before it shows in the registry.

Ok... I was just wondering, I kept seeing Todd Palin's float plane moored
in the Palin's backyard when she was doing all those interviews. The
Registry shows him as SEL.



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Dallas

On Nov 28, 8:23*am, Dallas™ wrote:
On 28 Nov 2008 14:20:43 GMT, Clark wrote:

Not necessarily. The Registry is always a little out of date. The pilot could
be ASES for a couple or three months before it shows in the registry.

Ok... I was just wondering, I kept seeing Todd Palin's float plane moored
in the Palin's backyard when she was doing all those interviews. *The
Registry shows him as SEL.

Could be that he's signed off solo. However, I read somewhere that the
FAA estimates that about 25% of all pilots in Alaska are not properly
rated. Alaska is a long way from DC and they're not always excited to
follow regulations that are brought to them from 5,000 miles away. In
fact there is a pretty big movement of people in Alaska who want to
leave the union because they feel that DC is far too out of touch with
the realities of living in remote Alaska.

-Robert

explain that one further please? what does experimental have to do with it?
In the USA
BT

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
...
Dallas™ wrote:
Wouldn't a pilot flying a seaplane with only a ASEL showing in the FAA
Registry be in violation?

Depends on the certification of the seaplane. If it's experimental, he
doesn't need the rating to fly solo.

Ron Wanttaja

"BT" wrote
explain that one further please? what does experimental have to do
with it? In the USA

FAR 61.31
(k) Exceptions.

(1) This section does not require a category and class rating for aircraft
not type-certificated as airplanes, rotorcraft, gliders, lighter-than-air
aircraft, powered-lifts, powered parachutes, or weight-shift-control
aircraft.

(2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to—

(i) An applicant when taking a practical test given by an examiner;

(ii) The holder of a student pilot certificate;

(iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under
the authority of—

(A) A provisional type certificate; or

(B) An experimental certificate, unless the operation involves carrying a
passenger;

Bob Moore

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
...
On Nov 28, 8:23 am, Dallas™ wrote:
On 28 Nov 2008 14:20:43 GMT, Clark wrote:

Not necessarily. The Registry is always a little out of date. The pilot
could
be ASES for a couple or three months before it shows in the registry.

Ok... I was just wondering, I kept seeing Todd Palin's float plane moored
in the Palin's backyard when she was doing all those interviews. The
Registry shows him as SEL.

Could be that he's signed off solo. However, I read somewhere that the
FAA estimates that about 25% of all pilots in Alaska are not properly
rated. Alaska is a long way from DC and they're not always excited to
follow regulations that are brought to them from 5,000 miles away. In
fact there is a pretty big movement of people in Alaska who want to
leave the union because they feel that DC is far too out of touch with
the realities of living in remote Alaska.

-Robert

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Then we should all leave the union, because they seem to be a good bit out
of touch with the realities of living just about anywhere.

BT wrote:
"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message

Wouldn't a pilot flying a seaplane with only a ASEL showing in the
FAA Registry be in violation?

Depends on the certification of the seaplane. If it's experimental,
he doesn't need the rating to fly solo.

explain that one further please? what does experimental have to do with it?
In the USA

Experimentals operate under Special Airworthiness, where any
restrictions are spelled out in operating limitations. Until a few
years back, there were no limitations at all, but now they limit a pilot
without the appropriate ratings to flying solo.

It's kinda like how the FARs don't require homebuilts to have annual
inspections....

Ron Wanttaja

Thanx Bob... that's a new wrinkle I had not seen..
BT

"Robert Moore" wrote in message
5.250...
"BT" wrote
explain that one further please? what does experimental have to do
with it? In the USA

FAR 61.31
(k) Exceptions.

(1) This section does not require a category and class rating for aircraft
not type-certificated as airplanes, rotorcraft, gliders, lighter-than-air
aircraft, powered-lifts, powered parachutes, or weight-shift-control
aircraft.

(2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to-

(i) An applicant when taking a practical test given by an examiner;

(ii) The holder of a student pilot certificate;

(iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under
the authority of-

(A) A provisional type certificate; or

(B) An experimental certificate, unless the operation involves carrying a
passenger;

Bob Moore

"BT" wrote in message
...
Thanx Bob... that's a new wrinkle I had not seen..

Although, there are ways the FAA can make it difficult for you.

At a EAA flyin, a FAA inspector guy told us that although you were not
required to have a seaplane rating for an experimental seaplane, if he was
doing the signing off the inspection before the initial test period and knew
the person going to fly it was not seaplane rated, he would likely make the
restrictions something like "only to fly on the last Tuesday in the month
after a full moon at full tide and only if the full tide maximum occurs at
2:00 PM."

You get the idea. He wanted to make sure a person flying a brand new
homebuilt was rated for the aircraft.
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Jim in NC