Hypothesis on USAir birdstrike

Eeyore wrote in
:



Steve Pope wrote:

The reports are there was a birdstrike and explosion
and both engines went silent. What are the odds that,
instead of a double birstrike, there was a single
birdstrike taking out one engine, but due to some
design flaw or maintenance issue the other engine lost
power also?

NIL





nope, wrong again planespotter



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Eeyore wrote in

spope wrote,

What are the odds that, instead of a double birstrike,
there was a single birdstrike taking out one engine, but due
to some design flaw or maintenance issue the other engine lost
power also?

NIL

nope, wrong again planespotter

We shoudn't have to wait long, they've got both engines
now and it should be deterministic whether each one
ingested a bird causing damage.

Steve

(Steve Pope) wrote in news:gl08ml$cek$2
@blue.rahul.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Eeyore wrote in

spope wrote,

What are the odds that, instead of a double birstrike,
there was a single birdstrike taking out one engine, but due
to some design flaw or maintenance issue the other engine lost
power also?

NIL

nope, wrong again planespotter

We shoudn't have to wait long, they've got both engines
now and it should be deterministic whether each one
ingested a bird causing damage.


Mmm, true.

Bertie

On Jan 18, 1:58*pm, (Steve Pope) wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Eeyore wrote in
spope wrote,
What are the odds that, instead of a double birstrike,
there was a single birdstrike taking out one engine, but due
to some design flaw or maintenance issue the other engine lost
power also?
NIL
nope, wrong again planespotter

We shoudn't have to wait long, they've got both engines
now and it should be deterministic whether each one
ingested a bird causing damage.

Steve

The black boxes alone will show if the crew shut down either engine
before it was showing damage. I do not expect that they did though.
I hope the final accident report is published here, or at least a link
to it. Should be interesting.

Harry K

Eeyore wrote in
:

Steve Pope wrote:

The reports are there was a birdstrike and explosion
and both engines went silent. What are the odds that,
instead of a double birdstrike, there was a single
birdstrike taking out one engine, but due to some
design flaw or maintenance issue the other engine lost
power also?

NIL

Lookin' more likely

S.

"Steve Pope" wrote in message
...

Lookin' more likely

How so?

Vaughn

Gary L. Burnore wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:07:29 GMT, "vaughn"
wrote:


"Steve Pope" wrote in message
...

Lookin' more likely

How so?

They found no evidence of organic matter after the second engine was pulled
from the bottom of the river. Heh.

Of course, they did say they saw evidence of a soft body strike. So it's NOT
likely.

The soft body strike was limited to the lip of the engine. Blades
are apparently intact, according to what I read. The second engine
did not at first glance ingest a bird, but we'll have to wait for
more total information.

Steve

On Jan 25, 10:34*am, (Steve Pope) wrote:
Gary L. Burnore wrote:



On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:07:29 GMT, "vaughn"
wrote:

"Steve Pope" wrote in message
...

Lookin' more likely

* How so?

They found no evidence of organic matter after the second engine was pulled
from the bottom of the river. Heh.

Of course, they did say they saw evidence of a soft body strike. *So it's NOT
likely. *

The soft body strike was limited to the lip of the engine. *Blades
are apparently intact, according to what I read. *The second engine
did not at first glance ingest a bird, but we'll have to wait for
more total information.

Steve

The flight data recorder showed that both engines died
simultaneously. It was birds in both. See

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...aRJCQD95PSFFO0

Dan

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:07:29 GMT, "vaughn"

wrote:


"Steve Pope" wrote in message
...

Lookin' more likely

How so?

They found no evidence of organic matter after the second engine was
pulled
from the bottom of the river. Heh.

Of course, they did say they saw evidence of a soft body strike. So it's
NOT
likely. Besides, each side has totally separate and redundant systems so
the
usual crap from the doom-and-gloom theorists applies.



Maybe the bird stuck its tongue into the engine?

--
Gregory Hall

wrote:

On Jan 25, 10:34*am, (Steve Pope) wrote:

The flight data recorder showed that both engines died
simultaneously.

Yep

It was birds in both.

Not yet demonstrated. The other possibility is some other TBD
flaw causes the other engine to lose power even though it
did not ingest a bird.

Steve