Bulldozing US Homeland Defence.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...age/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139598/

A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?

One and a half hours is not enough to scramble an A-10 Warthog or an
Apache attack chopper to knock out that concrete-armored caterpillar?
What the hell the Colorado ANG was doing?

Damn, if the driver was Musa al-Zarqawi, he could crawl all the way to
Chicago and razor the Sear Tower with confused cops firing pistols
at him to no avail!

Don't tell me this scenario was unexpected. Some two years ago a drunken
guy ran amok with an M-60 tank. He was finally stopped by a static
obstacle, which just like this case, had nothing to do with law
enforcement.

The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
Germans.

The governor and the ANG leadership should be fired with regards to this
bulldozer incident. Sitting idle is not in-line with best american
tradition!

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...age/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139598/

A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?

One and a half hours is not enough to scramble an A-10 Warthog or an
Apache attack chopper to knock out that concrete-armored caterpillar?
What the hell the Colorado ANG was doing?

Damn, if the driver was Musa al-Zarqawi, he could crawl all the way to
Chicago and razor the Sear Tower with confused cops firing pistols
at him to no avail!

Don't tell me this scenario was unexpected. Some two years ago a drunken
guy ran amok with an M-60 tank. He was finally stopped by a static
obstacle, which just like this case, had nothing to do with law
enforcement.

The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
Germans.

The governor and the ANG leadership should be fired with regards to this
bulldozer incident. Sitting idle is not in-line with best american
tradition!


Ahhh, just maybe the military isn't generally used to enforce domestic
law... Posse Comitatus Act and such, controlling use of army and air force
assets in continental US...sort of the idea that the government actually
follows the law...

Yeah, lets fire 'em all for actually following the law.... no real
"Mercun lets little things like law and constitution get in the way of
shooting up some domestic bad 'un!

-- Jim McLaughlin

Please don't just hit the reply key.
Remove the obvious from the address to reply.

Posse Comitatus Act and such

...do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!

: The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
: over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
: operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
: suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
: administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
: civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
: resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
: Germans.

Learn from the Russians? Oh, yes, they have certainly defused that
whole Chechnya thing. If the Russians had responded to the above incident,
their artillery would have destroyed 3 times as many buildings as the enemy,
they would have shot down an unsuspecting airliner, and the State of Colorado
would be so enraged as to be on the point of secession. Russian interpretation
of Teddy Roosevelt: Talk big, carry a stick, beat yourself with it...

regards,
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such

..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!

Well given the common side effects of Israils use of air to serface
missiles, for terminating people who dare to disagree with them, sending in
the ANG to blow **** up might well kill more people than letting the idiot
drive around for a while. And given that if the missile so much as musses a
bystanders hair the county sheriff gets sued for his liver and lungs you can
see how they might be a bit reluctant to let the ANG drop bombs all over
their town.

A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?

Palestine has dead. The authorities ended this one without public
deaths.

Pure chance. They had no absolutely contact with the madman whatsoever .
If he decided to target a chemical plant and cause a Bhopal-scale
industrial disaster, the cops simply couldn't stop him. In the end an
entire county could get killed.

"Tamas Feher" wrote:

:http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...age/index.html
:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139598/
:
:A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?
:
:One and a half hours is not enough to scramble an A-10 Warthog or an
:Apache attack chopper to knock out that concrete-armored caterpillar?
:What the hell the Colorado ANG was doing?

They were staying out of what was essentially a law enforcement
situation, as the law requires.

:The governor and the ANG leadership should be fired with regards to this
:bulldozer incident. Sitting idle is not in-line with best american
:tradition!

Neither is using an air strike by military troops for law enforcement
purposes.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

they would have shot down an unsuspecting airliner

You mean the ukrainians, about two years ago? That chartered Tu-154 had
five israeli bioweapon "scientists" on-board en route to Russia. They
were such a grave danger to the whole mankind that they needed to be
eliminated at such a huge price in civilians.

You mean the USSR, with KAL-007? There was an US RC-135 in the air,
using the KAL-007 to hide behind it. The laser gyroscope error that led
the Jumbo to fly over soviet territory and super-secret ICBM sites is
certainly strange. You can blame that Jumbo on the CIA, rather than the
soviets.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:08:40 +0200, Tamas Feher wrote:

You mean the USSR, with KAL-007? There was an US RC-135 in the air,
using the KAL-007 to hide behind it.

Cobra Ball was on the ground. What are you talking about?

--

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
...
Posse Comitatus Act and such

..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!

Indeed it *does* affect the Air National Guard. Internal law enforcement is
left to the civil authorities. The national guard would not be involved
unless the governor of the state orders units to respond.