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Tomorrow when I have more time I will post my synopsis on the
subject. Paul As promised (warned? but then encouraged...) here is my exhaust project so far, which I felt I should post to it's own thread to not hijack the OP's thread looking for more advice on other subjects... Dick Butler was very helpful and inspiring early on, even encouraging me to make it an article for soaring or something after reading up on my 'discoveries', which I may do in the near future... so sorry if it's old news by then to anyone who read it already on this group. Also, it will be old news to several of you out there that I already peppered with this drivel during my more active phase of this project... At least while I'm sure most here read Soaring, I'm sure most that read Soaring are not here... (make any sense?) Sorry I don't have the accompanying pics posted to a public site yet, but for anyone interested I can just email them directly to you until then. disclaimer- I'm not formally trained in any of this stuff so this information is based off my skin deep research and observations along with my intuition. It is quite possible that I added 2 and 2 together and came up with 5, but bottom line the exhaust vents I made do indeed make my cockpit significantly more comfy and quiet. Vented Exhaust Project Synopsis, Paul Hanson What got me started on this project, was learning about the Mandl Extractor by DG/LS: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/mandl-absaugung-e.html , and the ensuing discussion about it here on ras which in turn led me to the discovery of Dick Butler's dorsal vent on his highly modified 22 (ASW-22BL/Eta-Biter/The Beast/whatever you may call it, I believe it's currently the highest measured performing sailplane in the world...), via Dave Nadler's racing blog from Uvalde he posted in that discussion: http://www.nadler.com/public/Uvalde2...t_exterior.JPG and http://www.nadler.com/public/Uvalde2...it_cockpit.JPG ). As mentioned previously then and now, UF flying out of Jean NV (naturally a very HOT climate...), converted his aileron access hatch on his Speed Astir he flies to have an adaptation of the Mandl extractor built into which he kindly posted to that discussion and this one, ( http://griderpirate.smugmug.com/gall...55235760_LUSmZ ) which came out rather well and he reported significant increase in the flow of air through the cockpit (even with 101 dalmations and a sheep in there... I had no idea Speed Astir's cockpits were so large!). That's when the light actually went on in my head, cause my ship, an SZD-59, has a rather large centrally located dorsal hatch on it that would be perfect to play with, requiring very little faith in my own abilities to conduct some testing... I fly out of Avenal, with normal ground temps in the 85-115 degrees f range, and with my 59's anemic ventilation system, spring/summer/fall (especially summer!) flying is generally less than comfortable, so any increase in cockpit comfort will be a "performance" increase for me, but I do believe there is even a slight aerodynamic gain as well, although I'm skeptical about LS's claimed 2 L/D points. I made a Butler style arrangement (tunnel to follow...) and also a few attempts at a 'tuned' Mandl style extractor, to make it as quiet (Mandl himself describes his has having a slight rumble, which may or may not be due to location...) and hence as efficient as possible. Since these are based on a removable hatch on my ship, they can be changed out easily and I'm currently doing subjective comparative testing of the two, and if possible something more scientific down the road. The Butler hatch required a mod to the forward lip of my hatch opening and is probably too large to be adapted to most ship's little aileron control access etc hatchy things and is probably better off centrally located on the dorsal anyhow, but maybe not. The Mandl based design I came up with will not require any mods to work on any SZD 59 or SZD 48-3, although things with smaller hatches would probably only accept the MK I version I made since it's shorter than my MKII with the larger/longer bell mouth inlet based on my (again, skin deep) research of optimized wind tunnel proportions... I don't think the Mandle exhaust vent would be as sensitive to being asymmetrically located either. My initial flight test on my Butler and Mandl hatch results were very encouraging. It works! IT WORKS! IT TOTALLY EFFIN WORKS!! With the forward intake NACA scoop and slider/popout window on my ship closed, there was very little noticeable increase in noise at any of the speeds I flew at (37-80kts on my first flight, but even up to VNE it's still rather quiet. However once the forward vent was opened, I could actually hear air flowing though it--for the first time ever! Normally all it did was rumble before... Not only that, I could actually even feel it too! (also for the first time...) When I opened the popout it was the same pleasant surprise, with a very noticeable stream of refreshing air, that sounded and felt very laminar (steady whooshing sound with no rumble and not turbulent feeling). With just the little circular popout scoop out and my forward vent open, I'm able to be basically comfortable in the cockpit for entire fights. In no configuration is the exhausting air exiting distracting. In fact, it is much quieter in my cockpit since I'm now able to fly with my slider window closed and my hand NOT scooped out the hole (my otherwise 'normal' mode of flying my 59...) in pale attempts to coerce the air to enter. (it does not want to come in with nowhere to go out!) This practice was especially lame at low altitude saves as well as conditions where my left hand froze while the rest of me cooked. Many- a-flight have I put my left hand on the stick to thaw and expose my right hand (crossed over my chest) until I was evened out. BTW, it was 90 or so deg on the ground when I launched on my first test flight, with a nasty inversion at ~3000msl (field elevation is 790', needless to say very crappy soaring conditions only allowed a short test, but I've flown a bunch with it since and I'm still very pleased with the results...). It really is much quieter and much more comfortable in my cockpit though, despite the intakes being open and despite the exhaust hole too. What a welcome and wonderful relief! All this, AND it increases the aerodynamic performance of the ship?!? Heck, I'd have done it just to increase MY performance, even if there was an aerodynamic disadvantage; however as Wil Shueman also proved in the early 70's there is indeed an increase in performance to be had when you give cockpit bleed/vent air somewhere constructive to go, so this is not a new idea, just a newer and more optimized revisitation. I have tested my (MK I...) Mandl extractor, both with and without a honeycomb grill in the mouth, and I've tested my MKII a little too (works killer...). The first incarnation, my MKI, has a small cup- flange on the interior mouth of an otherwise normal length Mandl to which I added a small radius to efficiently flare it open, providing a slightly larger mouth and hence honeycomb grill than the normal mouth size, increasing the grill's efficiency. This flange held the honeycomb grill in place as well as add much strength. The newer (MKII) version is much longer (extending it forward internally, the exit portion itself is unchanged...) has a much larger bell mouth that is nicely fared in, using the guidelines I established from wind tunnels to determine geometric relationships as much as possible. I did not get to fly very long with my MK I, but it seemed to make a tiny bit more noise than my Butler exhaust, but the Mandl was still completely effective at ventilation either way. The increased perceived additional Mandl noise may or may not have even actually existed, as those flights were mostly short and made in shearline which makes any soaring noisier since the wind is shifting around (which also really provided a new and unexpected cue to help model the lift/sink I was flying in in all actuality...) so much as I circle and fly in and out of mixing air. Also, and what I believe to be the real culprit, is that those test articles have a thick lip at a critical juncture (where extractor meets exterior), since it is a fiberglass part that I simply taped to the inside of a mat-board mockup of my hatch with the appropriate sized cutout but not fared in. Ironically and quite unintentionally, the final shape I ended up on my MKII, now looks (to me at least..) like a bulbous and rounded variant of a NACA intake, but I assume very similar guidelines probably underlie both designs for the same aerodynamic reasons. I have pics of my MK I version in various stages in addition to a shot of my Butler style extractor and the mod I had to do to the hatch's lip (to my fuselage) to accommodate it. I will get more MK II pics soon, as I am almost done contouring the bell inlet, getting ready to mold it for reproduction. Overall, to my eye, ,it looks better than the MKI and I'm pretty psyched about it, but who knows how much difference it really makes in measured numbers... plus the MKI would better fit most ship's small hatches. I will be making completed MKII Mandl style hatches able to be adapted to any 59/48:3 without the need for any mods, or with a tiny mod to use the slick flush latches I acquired for the purpose (unfortunately SZD wants like $90 for their not too slick latches so I got different ones for it...) or Butler style hatches for them if anyone wants. I will also be making both simple MkI and MKII exhaust parts for people to adapt to their own ships in the manner they see fit, but will probably make some ready- made version hatches for ships like ASW-20/19 and a few others. Obviously the Butler arrangement is a little bigger commitment , with the need to thin the forward lip on the hatch on a 59/48-3... or to cut a much larger hole (surgery!) to accommodate it on other ships without removable hatches. Perhaps smaller Butler vents would be effective too... I haven't yet explored that region yet. As mentioned, I have done a bit of research to establish rough optimization guidelines for the bell mouth geometry on the Mandl as well as the accelerator funnel/air straightener arrangement (which I found analogous to a wind tunnel) that Butler used, and I cut and pasted below what I shared with him on it after a most encouraging phone conversation I had with him on the subject. Butler's untreated vent (when it had no internal funnel...) was noisy to him, indicating it was still kinda draggy (or more draggy than it *could* be at least...). That's why Butler made the funnel in his ship, to both accelerate and straighten the exit air to minimize it's impact in the boundary layer and quiet the thing down which got me interested in the honeycomb grills which I knew were used for that very purpose (the straightening....). I put some thought and homework into it and came up with a few refinements as well as guidelines (most notably the honeycomb grill though, which is what really stumbled me into wind tunnel guidelines as honeycomb grills are the key to them too... I was just trying to figure out efficiency drops across the grills and found much more than I was looking for) for making new ones on different ships, should someone want to do such a thing...(note- it's even duller from this point on...) -Paul Hanson PS. Feel free to make any suggestions, ask any questions, or give any feedback. Of course also email me if you want me to keep you updated on progress, I'll soon be testing a finished article of my MKII version as well as making real glass articles of my Butler Extractor as well, in addition to making a tunnel for the Butler arrangement. PPS. In no other sport that I know of, can you so easily connect with the 'superstars' and on top of that to have them be so darn kind. I heart soaring! PPPS. sorry for any non-sequiturs or repeated info, I'm trying to adapt something I wrote last Dec aimed towards other 59/48-3 owners into being currently relevant, and for any ships, not to mention the lack of accompanying pics which add much to the storyline... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guidelines for Funnel Optimization: (copy/pasted from my email to DB) It was quite by accident I wound up on a wind tunnel analogy though, stumbled on while searching for measured effectiveness and efficiencies inherent to honeycomb structures being used in air straightening applications in the hopes of developing some sort of guidelines to have a beginning place. Finding it stated that a length (thickness of grill) of 6-8 times the cell width in so many places was encouraging, especially when I found it stated by aerodynamicists in relation to wind tunnels. It was then that my brain made the connection that your vent arrangement is essentially a passive low speed wind tunnel. Being a passive, reduced-pressure driven device has to change the aerodynamic properties for establishing laminar flow in the exit stream, but I'm almost sure most of the guidelines still apply from normal active vacuum driven wind tunnels. I had no intention of making a wind tunnel section for mine, but once I studied up on it a little it seems quite a bit more attractive. After a quick study of some pressure distribution charts of sailplanes, I see why you chose that location for your exit. Although it is optimally located in a low pressure area, there is not enough length to apply most of the guidelines for a laminar/deturbulating tunnel. Mine is located further back, which unfortunately moves it out of the low pressure hotspot, but at least affords me some linear length to (theoretically) make a more optimized tunnel. For the time being I will settle for the honeycomb in the exit and go tunnel-less, which I'm sure will still work wonders for straightening the flow, which is certain to at least quiet it a bit. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Honeycomb/Screen For 'Laminarization' of Exit Airflow (Laminator?) + funnel considerations based on small wind tunnel design Use of aluminum honeycomb/screen to minimize turbulence/drag of the exit air of the extractor vent, summarized guidelines: 1. Optimal length (aspect ratio) of honeycomb is 6-8 times the cell width. 2. Any screens for further modification of airstream (probably not necessary for this application)should be downstream of the honeycomb, by ~.2 Diameters. (diameter is calculated by surface area of opening on irregular shape applied towards a circle) Additional summarized (basic) design guidelines if using an accelerator funnel arrangement: (to increases airflow while decreasing turbulence-ie. noise/drag) 3. Accelerator funnel should begin with a parallel section (settling chamber) of at least .5 Diameters in length immediately behind the honeycomb grill, w/attn to transitions. 4. Optimal location for honeycomb/screens is mouth of funnel due to increased surface area and therefore reduced speed/pressure drops across honeycomb/screens(spaced ~.2 settling chamber Diameters apart w/honeycomb leading if screen is used)(note-for the sailplane cockpit arrangement, may be necessary to put the honeycomb/screen further downstream in funnel as to reduce risk of damage to fragile aluminum honeycomb cells. Of course titanium or stainless honeycomb is much tougher and could probably be up front...) 5. Contraction ratio for funnels are typically between 6-9 (x surface area)in small wind tunnels, and while longer contraction lengths are preferable, the transitions and wall smoothness is more important. 6. 45 deg fillets are beneficial in non symmetrical tunnels to reduce separation in the corners, and 2D corner contractions need 25% more length to achieve the same uniformity. 7. If there is a benefit to a velocity gradient to the exit air, this can be achieved by angling 1 (or more) of the screens until desired gradient is achieved http://www.hexcel.com/NR/rdonlyres/5...Properties.pdf (pg 30, note- for this application the airflow will be WELL below the 2000cfm minimum measured, probably closer to ~100-200cfm tops, so the drag penalties will be far lower than the chart goes, but should be easily deduced since the progression is linear) http://www-htgl.stanford.edu/bradsha...eedTunnels.pdf http://www-htgl.stanford.edu/bradsha...l/tscreen.html http://www.me.berkeley.edu/fml/resea...nd_tunnel.html http://www.vki.ac.be/facilities/pdf/l2b.pdf http://www.vki.ac.be/facilities/pdf/l7.pdf http://www.vki.ac.be/facilities/pdf/l6.pdf http://www.vki.ac.be/facilities/pdf/wg1.pdf http://tinyurl.com/6cpd54 (Godzilla is not very aerodynamic...) |
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Bumping this topic back up, as I would be interested if there was any more R&D done on these things, as well as any info on purchasing or fabricating one as a replacement for the aileron/spoiler hookup access hatch on my ASW-19. Paul, have you taken this any further along?
Thanks! Rob |
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