A tower-induced go-round

Further, if you actually read the AIM, you see the patterns in 4-3-3
are recomnended, not mandatory.

.... as is the "local procedure"

Not following the local procedure, while not illegal, is at the
minimum discourteous, and at the worst, dangerous.

Ditto AIM.

If you have a problem with the concept, you need to grow up and learn
to play nicely with others as this has been around since the beginning
of aviation.

I have no problem playing nicely with others. I have a problem with
others telling me deciding for me what I should do, rather than letting
me decide for myself how I want to play nicely with others.

Or not.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
Further, if you actually read the AIM, you see the patterns in 4-3-3
are recomnended, not mandatory.

... as is the "local procedure"

Not following the local procedure, while not illegal, is at the
minimum discourteous, and at the worst, dangerous.

Ditto AIM.

If you have a problem with the concept, you need to grow up and learn
to play nicely with others as this has been around since the beginning
of aviation.

I have no problem playing nicely with others. I have a problem with
others telling me deciding for me what I should do, rather than letting
me decide for myself how I want to play nicely with others.

Or not.

Doing what the rest of the world expects you to do if there is no
overriding reason not to is the definition of playing nicely with
others.

Doing what you want just because it isn't illegal without any regard
for how it effects others is the definition of arrogance.

--
Jim Pennino

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Doing what the rest of the world expects you to do if there is no
overriding reason not to is the definition of playing nicely with
others.

Except that in this case "The rest of the world" is just you.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
Doing what the rest of the world expects you to do if there is no
overriding reason not to is the definition of playing nicely with
others.

Except that in this case "The rest of the world" is just you.

In this case, "the rest of the world" is thousands of other pilots
over several decades, and that is just at one, small, airport.

If you expand that radius to 50 KM, you are now talking about tens
of thousands of pilots and a cumulative time of centuries.

It appears most people don't have a problem with the concept.

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Jim Pennino

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If you expand that radius to 50 KM, you are now talking about tens
of thousands of pilots and a cumulative time of centuries.

Tens of thousands of pilots have subscribed to your local noise
procedure? They also subscribe to the idea that everyone must follow it
or unsafe conditions result?

Jose
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Jose wrote:
If you expand that radius to 50 KM, you are now talking about tens
of thousands of pilots and a cumulative time of centuries.

Tens of thousands of pilots have subscribed to your local noise
procedure? They also subscribe to the idea that everyone must follow it
or unsafe conditions result?

They aren't "my" procedures, nor are they the procedures of some mob of
home owners, they are the procedures established by the airport
management.

Airport management is the person or group responsible for the operation
of an airport.

What part of that are you having trouble understanding?

And yes, the vast majority of pilots follow the local airport procedures
because most pilots aren't arrogant, pig-headed, assholes.

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They aren't "my" procedures, nor are they the procedures of some mob of
home owners, they are the procedures established by the airport
management.

Airport management is the person or group responsible for the operation
of an airport.


Airport management has no authority over airspace.

jimp@specsol. wrote

Doing what you want just because it isn't illegal without any regard
for how it effects others is the definition of arrogance.

Funny how that definition fits a few of the posters in this group... to a
"T."
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Doing what the rest of the world expects you to do if there is no
overriding reason not to is the definition of playing nicely with
others.


The rest of the world? The local CCB procedures have had very limited
distribution. You should expect most of the worlds pilots would not be
following them.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

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Doing what the rest of the world expects you to do if there is no
overriding reason not to is the definition of playing nicely with
others.


The rest of the world? The local CCB procedures have had very limited
distribution. You should expect most of the worlds pilots would not be
following them.

So now you are down to nit picking the symantics?

The above text is about life in general, not about any particular
procedure or airport, or even aviation in particular.

As for CCB in particular, better than 99% of the pilots using CCB
for the past several decades follow the CCB VFR procedures.

And of course, pilots don't follow the CCB VFR procedures at other
airports.

This is you most childish rebuttal to date.

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Jim Pennino

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