Look at this goof ball of a seller

[MRQB]

The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy
needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no
it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First
he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like
he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.

Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248


Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...

-----Original Message-----
From: MRQB ]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
To:
Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!

Please fully read my ad I have it commented below

I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
$15,900

Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
airplane's
engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO

Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966


Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
generous
please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
dont
meet my needs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
To: "Steven Rhine" >
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!


Hello Steven!

Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
ad:

Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
reconsider.
15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
end
up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...

Here is your ad:
Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
Must
Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
and
have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
i am
not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
will
pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
no
banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
mrqb@q...
Prior to calling.<br>

You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.

Inquirers email:

Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!

Go flying today!
OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
www.OpenAirNet.com
www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com

[Stu Gotts]

He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did
you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend?


On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:

>The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy
>needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no
>it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First
>he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
>looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like
>he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
>GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
>
>Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
>
>
>Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
>airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
>a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
>remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
>looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MRQB ]
>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
>To:
>Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>
>Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
>
>I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
>$15,900
>
>Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
>airplane's
>engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
>
>Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
>
>
>Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
>generous
>please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
>dont
>meet my needs.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
>To: "Steven Rhine" >
>Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
>Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>
>
>Hello Steven!
>
>Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
>ad:
>
>Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
>reconsider.
>15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
>150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
>airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
>end
>up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
>
>Here is your ad:
>Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
>Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
>Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
>Must
>Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
>and
>have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
>i am
>not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
>will
>pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
>no
>banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
>located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
>mrqb@q...
>Prior to calling.<br>
>
>You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
>following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
>
>Inquirers email:
>
>Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
>
>Go flying today!
>OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
>www.OpenAirNet.com
>www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
>

[Mike Fitzgerald]

I think that YOU are the goofball, not the seller. With your cocky
know-it-all attitude I would lose interest real quick. Who needs nonsense
like this from people like you? Just buy the plane if you like it, or learn
to read that the price is firm and move on.


"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
guy
> needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy
no
> it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
First
> he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like
> he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
> GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
>
> Goof Balls Airplane Ad
http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
>
>
> Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
> a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MRQB ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>
> Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
>
> I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> $15,900
>
> Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> airplane's
> engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
>
> Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
>
>
> Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> generous
> please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> dont
> meet my needs.

[Bob Fry]

Dude, from your posts your are having continuous troubles with
sellers. That means, it's time to think about your attitude! Please
take this in a friendly way--yes, there are plenty of goofy sellers.
So what?

I wish I had written stories about all the goofy sellers I ran into.
One guy, supposedly an A&P, had refurbished his airplane and repainted
it--with a spray can under the awning of his double-wide. I am not
making this up, the wings looked like a spray can job and he even had
photos to prove it! He was quite proud of his ingenuity.

Another guy had a fairly runout looking plane, but the interior had
just been redone with--I am not making this up--electrically heated
seats! This was an Ercoupe. They were extremely well padded and since
I am 6 feet, the whole test flight (he flew) was with me bent over
like a pretzel. Afterwards, seeing I wasn't showing a lot of
enthusiasm, he pointed out the many interior pockets as a selling
point and said he would throw in his nice metal insulated coffee cup
free gratis.

Another guy had a plane that hadn't been used for so long there were
cobwebs hanging off it. I declined the opportunity of a test
flight. Another plane, nicely equipped and apparently well-maintained,
had a nearly runout engine and vibrated like crazy.

Why go on? You get the idea. The funny thing is, I had the time of
my life talking to these people, looking at their planes, and
sometimes flying with them. I didn't insult them. Each one thought
their plane was the best--and to them, it was. I had other opinions
and kept them to myself. I found something nice to say about each
one, politely made some excuses, and left.

I almost didn't look at the last plane on my list. But on a whim I
drove over to see it (2 hour drive). It looked good, and now I had
the experience to tell. His asking price was fair (I had learned what
a fair price was too), but I couldn't fly it as it was in annual. A
couple of weeks later he flew up to my airport to give me a test
flight. I accepted his price, conditional on my mechanic inspecting
it, which we did the next day. The deal was struck and I was a new
plane owner! Gad, the last time I was that nervous was on my wedding
day.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Mike Fitzgerald" > wrote in message
news:%BQ1c.479441$na.1152093@attbi_s04...
> I think that YOU are the goofball, not the seller. With your cocky
> know-it-all attitude I would lose interest real quick. Who needs nonsense
> like this from people like you? Just buy the plane if you like it, or
learn
> to read that the price is firm and move on.

Unfortunately, Fitzgerald's attitude is rather common. No wonder Americans
get taken to the cleaners so often.

[MRQB]

Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my
add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up.


"Stu Gotts" > wrote in message
...
> He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did
> you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend?
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:
>
> >The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
guy
> >needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy
no
> >it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
First
> >he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> >looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
like
> >he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
> >GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
> >
> >Goof Balls Airplane Ad
http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
> >
> >
> >Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> >airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
> >a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> >remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> >looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: MRQB ]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> >
> >Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
> >
> >I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> >$15,900
> >
> >Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> >airplane's
> >engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
> >
> >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
> >
> >
> >Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> >generous
> >please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> >dont
> >meet my needs.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
> >To: "Steven Rhine" >
> >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> >Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> >
> >
> >Hello Steven!
> >
> >Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
> >ad:
> >
> >Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
> >reconsider.
> >15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
> >150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
> >airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
> >end
> >up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
> >
> >Here is your ad:
> >Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
> >Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
> >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
> >Must
> >Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
> >and
> >have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
> >i am
> >not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
> >will
> >pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
> >no
> >banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
> >located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
> >mrqb@q...
> >Prior to calling.<br>
> >
> >You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
> >following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
> >
> >Inquirers email:
> >
> >Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
> >
> >Go flying today!
> >OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
> >www.OpenAirNet.com
> >www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
> >
>

[MRQB]

Look and read again he e-mailed me on my add offering to pay up to $15,000
he solicited me.


"Mike Fitzgerald" > wrote in message
news:%BQ1c.479441$na.1152093@attbi_s04...
> I think that YOU are the goofball, not the seller. With your cocky
> know-it-all attitude I would lose interest real quick. Who needs nonsense
> like this from people like you? Just buy the plane if you like it, or
learn
> to read that the price is firm and move on.
>
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
> guy
> > needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy
> no
> > it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
> First
> > he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> > looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
like
> > he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have
a
> > GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
> >
> > Goof Balls Airplane Ad
> http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
> >
> >
> > Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> > airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
> > a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> > remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> > looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MRQB ]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> >
> > Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
> >
> > I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> > $15,900
> >
> > Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> > airplane's
> > engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
> >
> > Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
> >
> >
> > Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> > generous
> > please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> > dont
> > meet my needs.
>
>

[MRQB]

Only a few Seller's most have been decent, but its the bad ones that make a
bad inpression and give the industory a bad name and they make me put my
shields up a bit more. I have learned a lot about buying over the last few
weeks.



"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> Dude, from your posts your are having continuous troubles with
> sellers. That means, it's time to think about your attitude! Please
> take this in a friendly way--yes, there are plenty of goofy sellers.
> So what?
>
> I wish I had written stories about all the goofy sellers I ran into.
> One guy, supposedly an A&P, had refurbished his airplane and repainted
> it--with a spray can under the awning of his double-wide. I am not
> making this up, the wings looked like a spray can job and he even had
> photos to prove it! He was quite proud of his ingenuity.
>
> Another guy had a fairly runout looking plane, but the interior had
> just been redone with--I am not making this up--electrically heated
> seats! This was an Ercoupe. They were extremely well padded and since
> I am 6 feet, the whole test flight (he flew) was with me bent over
> like a pretzel. Afterwards, seeing I wasn't showing a lot of
> enthusiasm, he pointed out the many interior pockets as a selling
> point and said he would throw in his nice metal insulated coffee cup
> free gratis.
>
> Another guy had a plane that hadn't been used for so long there were
> cobwebs hanging off it. I declined the opportunity of a test
> flight. Another plane, nicely equipped and apparently well-maintained,
> had a nearly runout engine and vibrated like crazy.
>
> Why go on? You get the idea. The funny thing is, I had the time of
> my life talking to these people, looking at their planes, and
> sometimes flying with them. I didn't insult them. Each one thought
> their plane was the best--and to them, it was. I had other opinions
> and kept them to myself. I found something nice to say about each
> one, politely made some excuses, and left.
>
> I almost didn't look at the last plane on my list. But on a whim I
> drove over to see it (2 hour drive). It looked good, and now I had
> the experience to tell. His asking price was fair (I had learned what
> a fair price was too), but I couldn't fly it as it was in annual. A
> couple of weeks later he flew up to my airport to give me a test
> flight. I accepted his price, conditional on my mechanic inspecting
> it, which we did the next day. The deal was struck and I was a new
> plane owner! Gad, the last time I was that nervous was on my wedding
> day.

[Mike Rapoport]

They make the "industry" look bad? What industry are you talking about?
You are complaining about individuals who don't want to sell THEIR airplanes
for your price and/or terms. Think about that for a moment.

Mike
MU-2


"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> Only a few Seller's most have been decent, but its the bad ones that make
a
> bad inpression and give the industory a bad name and they make me put my
> shields up a bit more. I have learned a lot about buying over the last few
> weeks.
>
>
>
> "Bob Fry" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dude, from your posts your are having continuous troubles with
> > sellers. That means, it's time to think about your attitude! Please
> > take this in a friendly way--yes, there are plenty of goofy sellers.
> > So what?
> >
> > I wish I had written stories about all the goofy sellers I ran into.
> > One guy, supposedly an A&P, had refurbished his airplane and repainted
> > it--with a spray can under the awning of his double-wide. I am not
> > making this up, the wings looked like a spray can job and he even had
> > photos to prove it! He was quite proud of his ingenuity.
> >
> > Another guy had a fairly runout looking plane, but the interior had
> > just been redone with--I am not making this up--electrically heated
> > seats! This was an Ercoupe. They were extremely well padded and since
> > I am 6 feet, the whole test flight (he flew) was with me bent over
> > like a pretzel. Afterwards, seeing I wasn't showing a lot of
> > enthusiasm, he pointed out the many interior pockets as a selling
> > point and said he would throw in his nice metal insulated coffee cup
> > free gratis.
> >
> > Another guy had a plane that hadn't been used for so long there were
> > cobwebs hanging off it. I declined the opportunity of a test
> > flight. Another plane, nicely equipped and apparently well-maintained,
> > had a nearly runout engine and vibrated like crazy.
> >
> > Why go on? You get the idea. The funny thing is, I had the time of
> > my life talking to these people, looking at their planes, and
> > sometimes flying with them. I didn't insult them. Each one thought
> > their plane was the best--and to them, it was. I had other opinions
> > and kept them to myself. I found something nice to say about each
> > one, politely made some excuses, and left.
> >
> > I almost didn't look at the last plane on my list. But on a whim I
> > drove over to see it (2 hour drive). It looked good, and now I had
> > the experience to tell. His asking price was fair (I had learned what
> > a fair price was too), but I couldn't fly it as it was in annual. A
> > couple of weeks later he flew up to my airport to give me a test
> > flight. I accepted his price, conditional on my mechanic inspecting
> > it, which we did the next day. The deal was struck and I was a new
> > plane owner! Gad, the last time I was that nervous was on my wedding
> > day.
>
>

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> They make the "industry" look bad? What industry are you talking about?
> You are complaining about individuals who don't want to sell THEIR
airplanes
> for your price and/or terms. Think about that for a moment.

I beleive he said they would not allow inspections and would not dicker.
>
> Mike
> MU-2

The marketplace scene in "Life of Brian" comes to mind.

Wanna buy a gourd?

[Stu Gotts]

Okay, the whole deal confused me. Thanks!

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:06:06 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:

>Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my
>add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up.
>
>
>"Stu Gotts" > wrote in message
...
>> He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did
>> you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:
>>
>> >The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
>guy
>> >needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy
>no
>> >it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
>First
>> >he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
>> >looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
>like
>> >he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
>> >GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
>> >
>> >Goof Balls Airplane Ad
>http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
>> >
>> >
>> >Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
>> >airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
>> >a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
>> >remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
>> >looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: MRQB ]
>> >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
>> >To:
>> >Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>> >
>> >Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
>> >
>> >I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
>> >$15,900
>> >
>> >Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
>> >airplane's
>> >engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
>> >
>> >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
>> >
>> >
>> >Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
>> >generous
>> >please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
>> >dont
>> >meet my needs.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
>> >To: "Steven Rhine" >
>> >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
>> >Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello Steven!
>> >
>> >Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
>> >ad:
>> >
>> >Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
>> >reconsider.
>> >15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
>> >150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
>> >airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
>> >end
>> >up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
>> >
>> >Here is your ad:
>> >Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
>> >Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
>> >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
>> >Must
>> >Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
>> >and
>> >have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
>> >i am
>> >not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
>> >will
>> >pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
>> >no
>> >banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
>> >located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
>> >mrqb@q...
>> >Prior to calling.<br>
>> >
>> >You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
>> >following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
>> >
>> >Inquirers email:
>> >
>> >Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
>> >
>> >Go flying today!
>> >OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
>> >www.OpenAirNet.com
>> >www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
>> >
>>
>

[Mike Rapoport]

Allowing inspections is "terms" and dickering is "price".

Mike
MU-2


"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > They make the "industry" look bad? What industry are you talking about?
> > You are complaining about individuals who don't want to sell THEIR
> airplanes
> > for your price and/or terms. Think about that for a moment.
>
> I beleive he said they would not allow inspections and would not dicker.
> >
> > Mike
> > MU-2
>
> The marketplace scene in "Life of Brian" comes to mind.
>
> Wanna buy a gourd?
>
>
>

[TTA Cherokee Driver]

Three things:

1. The ad you cited says "Private seller" but dollars to donuts this
seller is a broker or a quick-flip artist. Look at his phone numbers.
How many individuals have TWO phone numbers that end in 000? Looking up
the tail number in the FAA database, his ownership certificate was
issued in January of this year. Plus the salesmanship patter in his
note. DON'T BUY JUNK! blah blah blah

2. That said, I'm starting to agree with others who say your attitude is
part of the problem. My first memory of you on the aviation newsgroups
was you fuming and threatening to sue your FBO because of availability
problems. You had a legitimate gripe but over the months you sure seem
to be having a lot of gripes and not much else to say. Each individual
one seems reasonable but the cumulative effect is making me wonder --
Are you really that unlucky? Now in this purchase quest you seem to be
looking for a quick cash bargain and then you are *shocked* that you are
not being offered creampuffs. Hey man, you offer cash for a quick sale
and expect to pay less than average, you're not going to hook up with
the class sellers with the creampuff airplanes. You've been advised
several times that it takes patience and perseverance to buy an
airplane, take that to heart.

3. Lastly, no matter how annoying these people are to you, pointing them
up personally for riducule on the newsgroup is simply uncool. At least
twice now you have posted people's private correspondences to you, which
is a major breach of internet ettiquite. It doesn't speak well for your
attitude or the respect with which you do (or do not) treat the people
you deal with.

JMO


MRQB wrote:

> The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy
> needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no
> it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First
> he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like
> he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a
> GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
>
> Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
>
>
> Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
> a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MRQB ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>
> Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
>
> I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> $15,900
>
> Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> airplane's
> engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
>
> Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
>
>
> Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> generous
> please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> dont
> meet my needs.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
> To: "Steven Rhine" >
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
>
>
> Hello Steven!
>
> Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
> ad:
>
> Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
> reconsider.
> 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
> 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
> airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
> end
> up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
>
> Here is your ad:
> Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
> Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
> Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
> Must
> Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
> and
> have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
> i am
> not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
> will
> pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
> no
> banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
> located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
> mrqb@q...
> Prior to calling.<br>
>
> You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
> following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
>
> Inquirers email:
>
> Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
>
> Go flying today!
> OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
> www.OpenAirNet.com
> www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
>
>

[Paul Sengupta]

My plane always has cobwebs on it. I can park it tonight, go
back tomorrow morning and there will be cobwebs on it. Usually
at the tail, from the rudder to the fin to the ground.

Paul

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> Another guy had a plane that hadn't been used for so long there were
> cobwebs hanging off it.

[MRQB]

"TTA Cherokee Driver" > wrote in message
...
> Three things:
>
> 1. The ad you cited says "Private seller" but dollars to donuts this
> seller is a broker or a quick-flip artist.

he may be a broker or a quick-flip artist

> Look at his phone numbers.
> How many individuals have TWO phone numbers that end in 000? Looking up
> the tail number in the FAA database, his ownership certificate was
> issued in January of this year. Plus the salesmanship patter in his
> note. DON'T BUY JUNK! blah blah blah

HUmm?


>
> 2. That said, I'm starting to agree with others who say your attitude is
> part of the problem. My first memory of you on the aviation newsgroups
> was you fuming and threatening to sue your FBO because of availability
> problems.

Was not aviability problems they got rid of all the planes after taking my
money. I did not threten to sue them only ponderd it but was able to come to
an agreement and was able to get a refund. "The only people that win in a
law suit are the attorneys" there is alway other ways to take care of
things.

>You had a legitimate gripe but over the months you sure seem
> to be having a lot of gripes and not much else to say. Each individual
> one seems reasonable but the cumulative effect is making me wonder --
> Are you really that unlucky?

No i am not unlucky i just seem to attract the wrong type of people.

>Now in this purchase quest you seem to be
> looking for a quick cash bargain and then you are *shocked* that you are
> not being offered creampuffs.

I know i will not find a Cream Puff all i wanted to point out is how some of
thease sellers are.

>Hey man, you offer cash for a quick sale
> and expect to pay less than average, you're not going to hook up with
> the class sellers with the creampuff airplanes. You've been advised
> several times that it takes patience and perseverance to buy an
> airplane, take that to heart.

Yes I am being patient, i have not bought anything yet i know in time i will
dig through the hay stack deep enough and find the one that right for me.

>
> 3. Lastly, no matter how annoying these people are to you, pointing them
> up personally for riducule on the newsgroup is simply uncool.

Uncool to let the public be aware of their rudeness and how unprofessional
they are.

>At least
> twice now you have posted people's private correspondences to you, which
> is a major breach of internet ettiquite.

They were my private e-mails and yes I chouse to share them

> It doesn't speak well for your
> attitude or the respect with which you do (or do not) treat the people
> you deal with.

I treat other with a lot of respect untill they show me a reason not to.

>
> JMO
>
>
> MRQB wrote:
>
> > The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
guy
> > needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy
no
> > it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
First
> > he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> > looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
like
> > he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have
a
> > GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
> >
> > Goof Balls Airplane Ad
http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
> >
> >
> > Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> > airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just
> > a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> > remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> > looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MRQB ]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> >
> > Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
> >
> > I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> > $15,900
> >
> > Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> > airplane's
> > engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
> >
> > Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
> >
> >
> > Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> > generous
> > please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> > dont
> > meet my needs.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
> > To: "Steven Rhine" >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> > Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> >
> >
> > Hello Steven!
> >
> > Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified
> > ad:
> >
> > Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
> > reconsider.
> > 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
> > 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
> > airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
> > end
> > up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
> >
> > Here is your ad:
> > Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
> > Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
> > Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
> > Must
> > Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
> > and
> > have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
> > i am
> > not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
> > will
> > pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
> > no
> > banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
> > located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
> > mrqb@q...
> > Prior to calling.<br>
> >
> > You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
> > following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
> >
> > Inquirers email:
> >
> > Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
> >
> > Go flying today!
> > OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
> > www.OpenAirNet.com
> > www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
> >
> >
>

[Matthew P. Cummings]

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:31:41 -0800, MRQB wrote:

> shields up a bit more. I have learned a lot about buying over the last few
> weeks.

You've been told many times what to expect, and when you get what you were
told would happen you seem to take it as a personal attack. It's not,
it's just that offering what you are you are going to attract the lower
end of the scale. That's a fact of life, don't get upset by it, just live
with it and move on.

You would do much better looking for a plane in other ways. I see them
all the time around here on the boards in your price range. I bet it's
the same in your state, just visit all the airports within a couple
hundred miles and you'll find it in your backyard for what you want to
spend.

Just quit calling people names because they don't meet your
specifications, often times that's the opening line in a deal, ask for
more than you expect to get just in case the buyer goes for it. This is
how you deal with people, it's give and take. He starts high, you start
low, both of you meet in the middle. If he starts over your 15K figure,
who cares, you're going to dicker it down anyhow, he knows it, you know
it, so with that have fun dickering.

The most fun I ever had was on vacation when I had absolutely no intention
of buying that shirt, yet I dickered long and hard, walked once and they
chased me down to renegotiate, in the end I bought it so much cheaper than
anybody else did because I was willing to dicker hard and walk. Do the
same, the process should be fun.

[MRQB]

I already told the guy once that i dont want his airplane as it is not what
i am looking for.

See the below:

Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
reconsider.



"Matthew P. Cummings" > wrote in message
ray.net...
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:31:41 -0800, MRQB wrote:
>
> > shields up a bit more. I have learned a lot about buying over the last
few
> > weeks.
>
> You've been told many times what to expect, and when you get what you were
> told would happen you seem to take it as a personal attack. It's not,
> it's just that offering what you are you are going to attract the lower
> end of the scale. That's a fact of life, don't get upset by it, just live
> with it and move on.
>
> You would do much better looking for a plane in other ways. I see them
> all the time around here on the boards in your price range. I bet it's
> the same in your state, just visit all the airports within a couple
> hundred miles and you'll find it in your backyard for what you want to
> spend.
>
> Just quit calling people names because they don't meet your
> specifications, often times that's the opening line in a deal, ask for
> more than you expect to get just in case the buyer goes for it. This is
> how you deal with people, it's give and take. He starts high, you start
> low, both of you meet in the middle. If he starts over your 15K figure,
> who cares, you're going to dicker it down anyhow, he knows it, you know
> it, so with that have fun dickering.
>
> The most fun I ever had was on vacation when I had absolutely no intention
> of buying that shirt, yet I dickered long and hard, walked once and they
> chased me down to renegotiate, in the end I bought it so much cheaper than
> anybody else did because I was willing to dicker hard and walk. Do the
> same, the process should be fun.
>

[Dude]

I wouldn't get too mad about the 15,900 part. If I were selling a plane, I
would talk to anyone who seemed like they may be in the market at all.
Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results. OTOH anyone who
wastes his time pushing when someone is obviously not moving is an idiot.
That's where I draw the line.


"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my
> add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up.
>
>
> "Stu Gotts" > wrote in message
> ...
> > He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did
> > you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:
> >
> > >The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this
> guy
> > >needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this
guy
> no
> > >it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
> First
> > >he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have
> > >looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
> like
> > >he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have
a
> > >GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
> > >
> > >Goof Balls Airplane Ad
> http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
> > >
> > >
> > >Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this
> > >airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is
just
> > >a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> > >remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> > >looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: MRQB ]
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> > >
> > >Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
> > >
> > >I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> > >$15,900
> > >
> > >Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> > >airplane's
> > >engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
> > >
> > >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
> > >
> > >
> > >Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> > >generous
> > >please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> > >dont
> > >meet my needs.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
> > >To: "Steven Rhine" >
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> > >Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello Steven!
> > >
> > >Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your
classified
> > >ad:
> > >
> > >Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
> > >reconsider.
> > >15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
> > >150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
> > >airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
> > >end
> > >up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her...
> > >
> > >Here is your ad:
> > >Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
> > >Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a
> > >Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
> > >Must
> > >Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual
> > >and
> > >have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly
> > >i am
> > >not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
> > >will
> > >pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind
> > >no
> > >banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am
> > >located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
> > >mrqb@q...
> > >Prior to calling.<br>
> > >
> > >You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
> > >following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
> > >
> > >Inquirers email:
> > >
> > >Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
> > >
> > >Go flying today!
> > >OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
> > >www.OpenAirNet.com
> > >www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
> > >
> >
>
>

[Dude]

All the rest is debatable, but you do need to know that sending out peoples
emails is a good way to not any longer get an email that says anything
important. I would not do it except to point out an extreme injustice.

I had a boss that got me in trouble once by forwarding a voice mail. He
spent the next six months getting little but the most polite voicemails,
emails, and memo's stating we should discuss the subject in person.



"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>
> "TTA Cherokee Driver" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Three things:
> >
> > 1. The ad you cited says "Private seller" but dollars to donuts this
> > seller is a broker or a quick-flip artist.
>
> he may be a broker or a quick-flip artist
>
> > Look at his phone numbers.
> > How many individuals have TWO phone numbers that end in 000? Looking up
> > the tail number in the FAA database, his ownership certificate was
> > issued in January of this year. Plus the salesmanship patter in his
> > note. DON'T BUY JUNK! blah blah blah
>
> HUmm?
>
>
> >
> > 2. That said, I'm starting to agree with others who say your attitude is
> > part of the problem. My first memory of you on the aviation newsgroups
> > was you fuming and threatening to sue your FBO because of availability
> > problems.
>
> Was not aviability problems they got rid of all the planes after taking my
> money. I did not threten to sue them only ponderd it but was able to come
to
> an agreement and was able to get a refund. "The only people that win in a
> law suit are the attorneys" there is alway other ways to take care of
> things.
>
> >You had a legitimate gripe but over the months you sure seem
> > to be having a lot of gripes and not much else to say. Each individual
> > one seems reasonable but the cumulative effect is making me wonder --
> > Are you really that unlucky?
>
> No i am not unlucky i just seem to attract the wrong type of people.
>
> >Now in this purchase quest you seem to be
> > looking for a quick cash bargain and then you are *shocked* that you are
> > not being offered creampuffs.
>
> I know i will not find a Cream Puff all i wanted to point out is how some
of
> thease sellers are.
>
> >Hey man, you offer cash for a quick sale
> > and expect to pay less than average, you're not going to hook up with
> > the class sellers with the creampuff airplanes. You've been advised
> > several times that it takes patience and perseverance to buy an
> > airplane, take that to heart.
>
> Yes I am being patient, i have not bought anything yet i know in time i
will
> dig through the hay stack deep enough and find the one that right for me.
>
> >
> > 3. Lastly, no matter how annoying these people are to you, pointing them
> > up personally for riducule on the newsgroup is simply uncool.
>
> Uncool to let the public be aware of their rudeness and how unprofessional
> they are.
>
> >At least
> > twice now you have posted people's private correspondences to you, which
> > is a major breach of internet ettiquite.
>
> They were my private e-mails and yes I chouse to share them
>
> > It doesn't speak well for your
> > attitude or the respect with which you do (or do not) treat the people
> > you deal with.
>
> I treat other with a lot of respect untill they show me a reason not to.
>
> >
> > JMO
> >
> >
> > MRQB wrote:
> >
> > > The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like
this
> guy
> > > needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this
guy
> no
> > > it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO.
> First
> > > he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I
have
> > > looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks
> like
> > > he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I
have
> a
> > > GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate.
> > >
> > > Goof Balls Airplane Ad
> http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to
this
> > > airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is
just
> > > a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios...
> > > remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it
> > > looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: MRQB ]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> > >
> > > Please fully read my ad I have it commented below
> > >
> > > I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking
> > > $15,900
> > >
> > > Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your
> > > airplane's
> > > engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO
> > >
> > > Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966
> > >
> > >
> > > Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being
> > > generous
> > > please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that
> > > dont
> > > meet my needs.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" >
> > > To: "Steven Rhine" >
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Steven!
> > >
> > > Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your
classified
> > > ad:
> > >
> > > Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should
> > > reconsider.
> > > 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com
> > > 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low
> > > airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't
> > > end
> > > up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains
her...
> > >
> > > Here is your ad:
> > > Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004
> > > Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for
a
> > > Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine
> > > Must
> > > Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current
annual
> > > and
> > > have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be
ugly
> > > i am
> > > not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I
> > > will
> > > pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper
kind
> > > no
> > > banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I
am
> > > located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to
> > > mrqb@q...
> > > Prior to calling.<br>
> > >
> > > You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the
> > > following email or hitting reply in your mail browser.
> > >
> > > Inquirers email:
> > >
> > > Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items!
> > >
> > > Go flying today!
> > > OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly!
> > > www.OpenAirNet.com
> > > www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Matthew P. Cummings]

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:56:20 -0800, MRQB wrote:

> I already told the guy once that i dont want his airplane as it is not what
> i am looking for.

It's still not worth getting upset over, it's just junk mail, ala spam
from this point forwards. Ignore it, he'll go away.

In any event, on an o-200 getting past TBO with a private owner is an
accomplishment, many consider 1500 hours what a private pilot should
expect before some major work and you should consider that in your quest.

[Bob Fry]

"Dude" > writes:

> Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results.

Can you explain a bit more? Sounds interesting.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Dude wrote:
>
> Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results.

Can you provide a few details or anecdotes? It hasn't worked very well for me
(I'm not the greatest negotiator).

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Rich]

Well, it all revolves around the assumption that if you have high
expectations, you might not get all, but you may get SOME of what you
ask for.

Years ago I spotted a Cessna 120 that I wanted for my first plane. It
had a lot of shortcomings, but still worth the $3000 being asked. I
thought it over and decided to try and get it for $2900. I
thought..."I'll offer $2750 and settle for $2900." Then I
thought..."Maybe I'll offer $2500 and settle for $2750."

Took a test flight with the seller, sat and discussed the plane's
strengths and weaknesses, and said I'd like to offer $2500.

The owner exploded! "No WAY!" "Wouldn't POSSIBLY consider it!" etc.etc.

OK, I responded... what WOULD you consider.

Quiet.... then the owner sheepishly offered... $2,600.

I kept my best poker face and we concluded the deal.

I wouldn't call it negotiating "stupidly"... just keeping all options open.

Rich





G.R. Patterson III wrote:
>
> Dude wrote:
>
>>Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results.
>
>
> Can you provide a few details or anecdotes? It hasn't worked very well for me
> (I'm not the greatest negotiator).
>
> George Patterson
> A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
> you look forward to the trip.

[Jürgen Exner]

MRQB wrote:
> The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like
> this guy needs to learn how to read.

[email snipped]

And that's a reason for you to publish a private letter on Usenet that was
sent to you privately ?
Maybe you need to learn some very basic Usenet manners first...

*PLONK*

jue