Skymap IIIC Mounting Options

[NW_PILOT]

Hello, group I was looking at mounts for my Skymap IIIC GPS I am wanting to
use either a Gimble Mount or a Pedastal Mount for mounting my Skymap IIIC in
my 150M, This will require 3 to 4 small holes to be drilled, Will this type
of mount require a field approval? I Just dont want to buy somthing other
than a yoke mount and not be able to have it installed! I think the yoke
mount is a
bad idea as I want to keep my eyes looking outside rather than inside.

[Bill Padley]

Hi there

I am in the UK and tried this..I was told that any mount above the
instrument panel on the flat surface would be obstructing my view , and the
CAA would not permit it...the only other space I had was way over on the
right , IN the panel where a glovebox was (grumman AA5-A) this is where it
ended up , and its NOT good there believe me!

good luck !

Bill Padley
London

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Hello, group I was looking at mounts for my Skymap IIIC GPS I am wanting
to
> use either a Gimble Mount or a Pedastal Mount for mounting my Skymap IIIC
in
> my 150M, This will require 3 to 4 small holes to be drilled, Will this
type
> of mount require a field approval? I Just dont want to buy somthing other
> than a yoke mount and not be able to have it installed! I think the yoke
> mount is a
> bad idea as I want to keep my eyes looking outside rather than inside.
>
>

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On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:31:19 -0700, "NW_PILOT" > wrote:

>Hello, group I was looking at mounts for my Skymap IIIC GPS I am wanting to
>use either a Gimble Mount or a Pedastal Mount for mounting my Skymap IIIC in
>my 150M, This will require 3 to 4 small holes to be drilled, Will this type
>of mount require a field approval? I Just dont want to buy somthing other
>than a yoke mount and not be able to have it installed! I think the yoke
>mount is a
>bad idea as I want to keep my eyes looking outside rather than inside.
>

We tried a Gimbal Mount on the passenger side for use with a
SkyforceII which tended to stick out of the panel too far and was not
satisfactory. Reflections on the screen were the problem.

In the end we fitted it on a fixed angled mount, slightly recessed on
the left side, which was all signed off when the new avionics were
fitted.

Have a look at the following pictures, which may help:
http://www.lochaberphysio.free-online.co.uk/lochaber/jo_panel/jo_panel_full.jpg
http://www.lochaberphysio.free-online.co.uk/lochaber/jo_panel/jo_panel_right.jpg



David

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[Robert M. Gary]

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message >...
> Hello, group I was looking at mounts for my Skymap IIIC GPS I am wanting to
> use either a Gimble Mount or a Pedastal Mount for mounting my Skymap IIIC in
> my 150M, This will require 3 to 4 small holes to be drilled, Will this type
> of mount require a field approval? I Just dont want to buy somthing other
> than a yoke mount and not be able to have it installed! I think the yoke
> mount is a
> bad idea as I want to keep my eyes looking outside rather than inside.


I tried each of these and ended up just getting the RAM mount for the
yoke. The mount is big a bulky and hits my knees. I couldn't figure
out a way to attach the Pedastal mount in my tight Mooney. I've had my
IIIc for several years now and just bought the new Garmin 296 (they
finally got terrain too). I guess I'll be selling the IIIc. The one
thing I liked better about the IIIc were the airway display on the
map. It was sure easy to turn onto an airway in the turb when you
could see it drawn right there on the display. I'll miss that when
going to the Garmin.

[NW_PILOT]

That would be nice to do but this is a Cessna 150 and my panel is full, I
was thinking above the compass see hand held photo
http://www.warflying.net/sm3.jpg I could faberacate a mount that could use
one of the holes for the compass


> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:31:19 -0700, "NW_PILOT" > wrote:
>
> >Hello, group I was looking at mounts for my Skymap IIIC GPS I am wanting
to
> >use either a Gimble Mount or a Pedastal Mount for mounting my Skymap IIIC
in
> >my 150M, This will require 3 to 4 small holes to be drilled, Will this
type
> >of mount require a field approval? I Just dont want to buy somthing other
> >than a yoke mount and not be able to have it installed! I think the yoke
> >mount is a
> >bad idea as I want to keep my eyes looking outside rather than inside.
> >
>
> We tried a Gimbal Mount on the passenger side for use with a
> SkyforceII which tended to stick out of the panel too far and was not
> satisfactory. Reflections on the screen were the problem.
>
> In the end we fitted it on a fixed angled mount, slightly recessed on
> the left side, which was all signed off when the new avionics were
> fitted.
>
> Have a look at the following pictures, which may help:
>
http://www.lochaberphysio.free-online.co.uk/lochaber/jo_panel/jo_panel_full.jpg
>
http://www.lochaberphysio.free-online.co.uk/lochaber/jo_panel/jo_panel_right.jpg
>
>
>
> David
>
> E-mail (Remove Space after pilot): pilot

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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:45:28 -0700, "NW_PILOT" > wrote:

>That would be nice to do but this is a Cessna 150 and my panel is full, I
>was thinking above the compass see hand held photo
>http://www.warflying.net/sm3.jpg I could faberacate a mount that could use
>one of the holes for the compass
>

I appreciate the problem but the Skyforce so near to the compass would
no doubt require a compas swing. Additionally the wiring is likely to
induce changes in the magnetic field as the GPS draws more or less
current. I suspect the compass variations would not be acceptable!

We had to use a VOR/ILS indicator with DME built in as the panel space
would not accommodate the DME when we fitted dual NAV/COM.

Good luck.


David

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[Hankal]

>That would be nice to do but this is a Cessna 150 and my panel is full, I
>was thinking above the compass see hand held photo

I have installed the rail mount for my AvMap. I have a 172 and it fit perfect.
I think I paid $109.00
Hank

[Jay Honeck]

Here's a pic of our yoke-mounted AvMap, which is the same size (I think) as
your Skymap:

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Small%20New%20interior%20front%20pilot%20lower%201 1-03.jpg

Or, try this if the url wraps:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V3EF424C6

It doesn't block any of the Sacred Six instruments, and the map is right
where I want it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[NW_PILOT]

I am going to go with the seat rail Ram-mount will keep it out of the way a
150's yoke is to small.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:HLYGc.41467$XM6.1867@attbi_s53...
> Here's a pic of our yoke-mounted AvMap, which is the same size (I think)
as
> your Skymap:
>
>
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Small%20New%20interior%20front%20pilot%20lower%201 1-03.jpg
>
> Or, try this if the url wraps:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?V3EF424C6
>
> It doesn't block any of the Sacred Six instruments, and the map is right
> where I want it.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Hankal]

>It doesn't block any of the Sacred Six instruments, and the map is right
>where I want it.

Still prefer my rail mount in my 172.
When in strong Florida sunlight I can tilt it to almost any angle.
Hank

[NW_PILOT]

I like the Idea of being able to also mount my Ipod a cup holder and laptop
in a secure place with the seat rail mount just found a great mount suction
cup mount for my mini dv also. You would not believe how many 802.11 AP's
you can pick up at 1,500 agl with an external antenna.


"Hankal" > wrote in message
...
> >It doesn't block any of the Sacred Six instruments, and the map is right
> >where I want it.
>
> Still prefer my rail mount in my 172.
> When in strong Florida sunlight I can tilt it to almost any angle.
> Hank

[Robert M. Gary]

(Hankal) wrote in message >...
> >That would be nice to do but this is a Cessna 150 and my panel is full, I
> >was thinking above the compass see hand held photo
>
> I have installed the rail mount for my AvMap. I have a 172 and it fit perfect.
> I think I paid $109.00

The difference with the Skymap IIIC is that it is much bigger than
most GPSs. Its a big hunk of GPS. The screen is much bigger than a
295. I'm almost sad to be getting rid of mine, but now that Garmin has
finally caught up in the terrain game, I'm going to jump ship.

-Robert

[NW_PILOT]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
m...
> (Hankal) wrote in message
>...
> > >That would be nice to do but this is a Cessna 150 and my panel is full,
I
> > >was thinking above the compass see hand held photo
> >
> > I have installed the rail mount for my AvMap. I have a 172 and it fit
perfect.
> > I think I paid $109.00
>
> The difference with the Skymap IIIC is that it is much bigger than
> most GPSs. Its a big hunk of GPS. The screen is much bigger than a
> 295. I'm almost sad to be getting rid of mine, but now that Garmin has
> finally caught up in the terrain game, I'm going to jump ship.
>
> -Robert

Yes it is big and I like it, It's easy to use easy to read ect.

[Jay Honeck]

> Still prefer my rail mount in my 172.

Rail mounts don't work well in planes with only one door. It's kinda hard
to crawl across them!

> When in strong Florida sunlight I can tilt it to almost any angle.

I can view ours in direct sunlight...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Hankal]

>Rail mounts don't work well in planes with only one door. It's kinda hard
>to crawl across them!

One of many reasons why I have a Cessna 172. Two doors and two windows.
Hank

[Hankal]

>The difference with the Skymap IIIC is that it is much bigger than
>most GPSs. Its a big hunk of GPS. The screen is much bigger than a
>295. I'm almost sad to be getting rid of mine, but now that Garmin has
>finally caught up in the terrain game, I'm going to jump ship.
>

You have to do, what you have to do.
As I am getting older and my eyes weaker
I prefer the big screen.