PIREP Extreme Simple Green Aviaiton cleaner

[Mike Rapoport]

I was given a bottle of this stuff at NBAA and today I tried it out for the
first time. The "problem cleaning" areas on a MU-2 are the outer portions
of the horizontal stabilizer. The grime is a combination of carbon from the
exhaust, carbon from the starter-generator and prop-heat brushes combined
with a tiny bit of oil and also spots of grease from the flap jackscrews
after an inspection. It is an important area to keep clean since this
concoction seems to destroy the outer portions of the tail de-ice boots
which are expensive.

I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime better
than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular Simple
Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!

Mike
MU-2

[Jack Allison]

Thanks for the PIREP Mike. As an (almost) newbie owner, this is the
type of info. that I look forward to learning from r.a.o.

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[Javier Henderson]

"Mike Rapoport" > writes:


> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime better
> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular Simple
> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!

Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?

-jav

[Mike Rapoport]

"Javier Henderson" > wrote in message
...
> "Mike Rapoport" > writes:
>
>
>> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime better
>> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
>> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular Simple
>> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
>> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!
>
> Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?
>
> -jav

Try:

http://www.quartzaviation.com/orderForm.htm

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Mike Rapoport" > said:
>I was given a bottle of this stuff at NBAA and today I tried it out for the

Wasn't there a problem with the original Simple Green that it could attack
aluminium or something? How did they fix that with the Aviation Cleaner?


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....if Paul's really talking about truly average people, then they'd probably
die in either case, because common sense isn't.
-- Derick Siddoway

[John Clonts]

"Javier Henderson" > wrote in message ...
> "Mike Rapoport" > writes:
>
>
>> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime better
>> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
>> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular Simple
>> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
>> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!
>
> Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?
>

I ordered some from http://www.mentormall.cc/ last week, but haven't received it yet. The price was about
$19/gal. I see now that their website is down-- I hope I haven't been scammed :)

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

[Matt Barrow]

"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> >> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime
better
> >> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
> >> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular
Simple
> >> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
> >> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!
> >
> > Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?
> >
> > -jav
>
> Try:
>
> http://www.quartzaviation.com/orderForm.htm
>

It doesn't damage the paint? In the late srping around here we get moths out
the wazoo and I'l like to just spray the leading edges down to get the crap
off but I woory about the paint (as others have aluded to). I have a really
good paint job and don't want to ruin it.


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[Blanche]

Matt Barrow > wrote:
>
>"Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime
>better
>> >> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over the
>> >> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular
>Simple
>> >> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
>> >> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!
>> >
>> > Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?
>> >
>> > -jav
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> http://www.quartzaviation.com/orderForm.htm
>>
>
>It doesn't damage the paint? In the late srping around here we get moths out
>the wazoo and I'l like to just spray the leading edges down to get the crap
>off but I woory about the paint (as others have aluded to). I have a really
>good paint job and don't want to ruin it.

Matt -- the new Extreme Simple Green has been approved by Boeing for
use on aircraft. It's primary purpose is grease. For moths and bugs
in general, I just grab a spray bottle with water, spray liberally,
let it sit for a few minutes then wipe off with a towel. I also make
sure I keep the leading edges well-waxed. Makes it much easier.

Most cleaners will probably remove the wax on the edges, making more
work for me.

[Mike Rapoport]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, "Mike Rapoport" > said:
>>I was given a bottle of this stuff at NBAA and today I tried it out for
>>the
>
> Wasn't there a problem with the original Simple Green that it could attack
> aluminium or something? How did they fix that with the Aviation Cleaner?
>

Yes there is a corrosion issue with regular Simple Green. The new Extreme
Simple Green is different, it isn't even green.

Mike
Not a chemist

[Mike Rapoport]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Rapoport" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
>>
>> >> I can report that Extreme Simple Green Aviation removed the grime
> better
>> >> than anything I have tried (almost everything I could think of over
>> >> the
>> >> years) and it seems to be a better oil/grease remover than regular
> Simple
>> >> Green. It is also relatively economical. I found a place on the web
>> >> selling it for $17.44 a gallon. Great stuff!
>> >
>> > Good stuff. Can you point us to this dealer please?
>> >
>> > -jav
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> http://www.quartzaviation.com/orderForm.htm
>>
>
> It doesn't damage the paint? In the late srping around here we get moths
> out
> the wazoo and I'l like to just spray the leading edges down to get the
> crap
> off but I woory about the paint (as others have aluded to). I have a
> really
> good paint job and don't want to ruin it.

I don't know why it would damage the paint. It is a cleaner and has no
abrasives. They market it specifically for cleaning airplanes.

Mike
MU-2

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article et>,
"Mike Rapoport" > wrote:

> "Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In a previous article, "Mike Rapoport" > said:
> >>I was given a bottle of this stuff at NBAA and today I tried it out for
> >>the
> >
> > Wasn't there a problem with the original Simple Green that it could attack
> > aluminium or something? How did they fix that with the Aviation Cleaner?
> >
>
> Yes there is a corrosion issue with regular Simple Green. The new Extreme
> Simple Green is different, it isn't even green.
>
> Mike
> Not a chemist


I have been using Carbon X, which is Ph neutral -- the problem with
regular Simple Green is that it is acidic and will attack aluminum and
magnesium. I would presume that the new Extreme Simple Green is a
similar product to Carbon X -- the prices appear to be about the same.

I have been using a 10% - 30% mixture of Carbon X in a spray bottle to
remove bugs -- I let it soak a couple of minutes and then wipe the bugs
off with a wet sponge. It does not attack dope or paint -- something
which 409 will do.

I assume that Extreme Simple Green would normally be applied in diluted
form, too.

[Matt Barrow]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> I have been using a 10% - 30% mixture of Carbon X in a spray bottle to
> remove bugs -- I let it soak a couple of minutes and then wipe the bugs
> off with a wet sponge. It does not attack dope or paint -- something
> which 409 will do.
>
> I assume that Extreme Simple Green would normally be applied in diluted
> form, too.

Well, that answers my question (from another post)!!

Thanks, that'll solve a BIG problem for me (okay ,a bug sized problem).

Matt
--
"A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner,
so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame
none but himself." -- Louis L'Amour

[Maule Driver]

Not long ago, I posted the real secret to leading edge bug cleaning ---
soak time.

No matter what you use, and surely some formulations are better than
others, letting them soak (i.e. remain wet) for an hour or even hours
will make removal a breeze. Worried about paint? Use plain water.

Keeping a LE wet may require a hangar, cool day, rags or whatever but
soak time really saves the elbow grease.

Now if I can just get the turbine exhaust stains off my Maule....

Matt Barrow wrote:
>
> It doesn't damage the paint? In the late srping around here we get moths out
> the wazoo and I'l like to just spray the leading edges down to get the crap
> off but I woory about the paint (as others have aluded to). I have a really
> good paint job and don't want to ruin it.
>
>

[Matt Barrow]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
.. .
> Not long ago, I posted the real secret to leading edge bug cleaning ---
> soak time.
>
> No matter what you use, and surely some formulations are better than
> others, letting them soak (i.e. remain wet) for an hour or even hours
> will make removal a breeze. Worried about paint? Use plain water.
>
> Keeping a LE wet may require a hangar, cool day, rags or whatever but
> soak time really saves the elbow grease.
>
> Now if I can just get the turbine exhaust stains off my Maule....

I have the hanger, but your idea of rags (in my case we have a bunch of old
towels) we can soak and hang over the LE sounds great.

My heavy flying starts about this time of year and the bug (moths) season
starts about the end of April. Being it can be pretty dry (compared to back
East) the bug removal process can be much more difficult if they aren't
soaked right away.

>
> Matt Barrow wrote:

Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO