C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast

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My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
with the cowling.

I recently read in an old copy of Aviation Consumer Buyers guide that
some of the N models are known to do this and that there's a Landing
Light Improvement Kit from Cessna.

I could not find one online

Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.

As a newbie - dont know. But I know someone must know the info for a
172! Thx

[john smith[_2_]]

In article om>,
" > wrote:

> Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.

I don't know if this is the kit you are referring to, I believe there is
one available that moves the landing light to the wing.
The vibration of the cowling breaks the hot filament/kills the landing
lights.

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On Apr 13, 3:21 pm, john smith > wrote:
> In article om>,
>
> " > wrote:
> > Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.
>
> I don't know if this is the kit you are referring to, I believe there is
> one available that moves the landing light to the wing.
> The vibration of the cowling breaks the hot filament/kills the landing
> lights.

thx! I also got an offline email about a halogen replacement with a
longer life, and one they think is more resistant to vibration.
Appreciate the info.

[David Lesher]

" > writes:


>thx! I also got an offline email about a halogen replacement with a
>longer life, and one they think is more resistant to vibration.
>Appreciate the info.


Of course, the big improvement would be filament-less lamps;
aka gas-discharge. Someone here will know the name.....

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> wrote:
> My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
> with the cowling.

Searching this group
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.owning/search?group=rec.aviation.owning&q=cessna+landing+light
shows several possible solutions, including a halogen lamp, a kit from
Cessna to improve the mounting of the existing lamp, aftermarket kits
to move the lamp to the wing, and aftermarket HID lamp kits.

Matt Roberds

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On Apr 13, 6:11 pm, wrote:
> > wrote:
> > My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
> > with the cowling.
>
> Searching this grouphttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.owning/search?group=rec.a...
> shows several possible solutions, including a halogen lamp, a kit from
> Cessna to improve the mounting of the existing lamp, aftermarket kits
> to move the lamp to the wing, and aftermarket HID lamp kits.
>
> Matt Roberds

Thx - will do. Appreciate the info.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
> with the cowling.
>
> I recently read in an old copy of Aviation Consumer Buyers guide that
> some of the N models are known to do this and that there's a Landing
> Light Improvement Kit from Cessna.
>
> I could not find one online
>
> Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.
>
> As a newbie - dont know. But I know someone must know the info for a
> 172! Thx

http://speedmods.com/Boom_Beam/boom_beam_172M-6.htm

Uses Xenon light blub - guaranteed 5 years / 5000 hours. Five times brighter
than standard lighting.

[Roy Smith]

In article >,
David Lesher > wrote:

> " > writes:
>
>
> >thx! I also got an offline email about a halogen replacement with a
> >longer life, and one they think is more resistant to vibration.
> >Appreciate the info.
>
>
> Of course, the big improvement would be filament-less lamps;
> aka gas-discharge. Someone here will know the name.....

I think you're talking about HID (High Intensity Discharge). That's what
in the annoying blue-ish headlights that have been showing up on cars the
past bunch of years.

[Andrew Gideon]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:11:10 +0000, mroberds wrote:


>
> Searching this group
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.owning/search?group=rec.aviation.owning&q=cessna+landing+light
> shows several possible solutions, including a halogen lamp, a kit from
> Cessna to improve the mounting of the existing lamp, aftermarket kits to
> move the lamp to the wing, and aftermarket HID lamp kits.

We did an HID upgrade on one of our 172s. It's nice; no need to worry
about bulb life, so it's basically always on in flight.

But this was wing-mounted (a P model, I think). We've also an N (and some
other planes with cowl-mounted lights), and - when I last looked - the HID
wasn't STCed for cowl-mounting.

On the other hand, it was anticipated, so perhaps it has occurred by now.

- Andrew
http://flyingclub.org/

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Thx - will do

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Thx - will do


Will do what?

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>
> > Thx - will do
>
> Will do what?

will look into HID - thx.

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
> >
>> > Thx - will do
>>
>> Will do what?
>
> will look into HID - thx.

IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.

Best case is LCDs and Xenon.

[Peter Clark]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:47:23 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
> wrote:


>Best case is LCDs and Xenon.

Can I get a 53" landing light please? ;)

[David Lesher]

"Matt Barrow" > writes:


>IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
>bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.

A Halogen IS a filament lamp. [GE Nela Park will tell you bulbs are
for tulips; they sell *lamps*...]

The halogen magic has to do with with gas in the envelope. See
the Wikipedia entry on same...

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"Peter Clark" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:47:23 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Best case is LCDs and Xenon.
>
> Can I get a 53" landing light please? ;)

Sure! How many AMU's you willing to spend? :~)

[Matt Barrow[_4_]]

"David Lesher" > wrote in message
...
> "Matt Barrow" > writes:
>
>
>>IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
>>bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.
>
> A Halogen IS a filament lamp.
Which is why I prefer Xenon.
> [GE Nela Park will tell you bulbs are
> for tulips; they sell *lamps*...]

Nerds! :~)

> The halogen magic has to do with with gas in the envelope. See
> the Wikipedia entry on same...

When refering to HID, what is the difference between Halogen and Xenon?

I had these on my Bo, and am waiting for an STC for the new bird.

http://speedmods.com/Boom_Beam/boom_beam_systems.htm

[Andrew Gideon]

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:31:50 -0700, Matt Barrow wrote:

> Nerds! :~)

One of my SCUBA instructors was very strict: they are cylinders; tanks are
mobile weapons.

Go call him a nerd <laugh>.

- Andrew

P.S. It suddenly occurs to me: my best instructors have been
pedantic.

[Jon Woellhaf]

Your better instructors? <g>

"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:31:50 -0700, Matt Barrow wrote:
>
>> Nerds! :~)
>
> One of my SCUBA instructors was very strict: they are cylinders; tanks are
> mobile weapons.
>
> Go call him a nerd <laugh>.
>
> - Andrew
>
> P.S. It suddenly occurs to me: my best instructors have been
> pedantic.
>

[Andrew Gideon]

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:20:07 -0600, Jon Woellhaf wrote:

> Your better instructors? <g>

I cannot use "best" in this context? Implied is "...in each discipline."

- Andrew

[Jon Woellhaf]

Andrew Gideon wrote that his best instructors were pedantic.

In a feeble attempt to be humorously pedantic I asked, "Your better
instructors? <g>"

And Andrew wrote, "I cannot use 'best' in this context? Implied is '...in
each discipline.'"

Sure you can.

Jon

[The Visitor]

I own a fairly young Seneca and put on the wingtips with hid's.
From RMD aircraft lighting. First rate to deal with.

Sigh, okay I'l cite the link, whimper....
http://www.rmdaircraft.com/hid.html

Much better than the halogens that were in there and they can be aimed.
Nothing short of spectacular.
I have two halogens on the nose strut, but they make little noticible
difference weather they are on or off. In fact it barely shows if they
are on or off.

If you go hid, you should be very happy.

John

wrote:

>>>Thx - will do
>>
>>Will do what?
>
>
> will look into HID - thx.
>

[Andrew Gideon]

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:32:34 -0600, Jon Woellhaf wrote:

> Sure you can.

Hey, that's more bestest.

- Andrew