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IO
October 19th 03, 06:21 PM
How about "lend lease" convoys to Murmansk during the war. They fistly armed
Hitler and after Stalin to destroy Europe... USA is the worst enemy of
Europe...

Keith Willshaw
October 19th 03, 07:01 PM
"IO" > wrote in message
...
> How about "lend lease" convoys to Murmansk during the war. They fistly
armed
> Hitler and after Stalin to destroy Europe... USA is the worst enemy of
> Europe...
>
>

Pray tell what leap of logic leads you to the
assumption that the USA armed Hitler.

Was the Panzer Mk III built in Detroit ?

Did the Flak-88 originate in Pittburg ?

Are you brain dead ?

Keith

Tank Fixer
October 19th 03, 10:09 PM
In article >, says...
> How about "lend lease" convoys to Murmansk during the war. They fistly armed
> Hitler and after Stalin to destroy Europe... USA is the worst enemy of
> Europe...

Just where did the US send lend lease to Germany ? Care to point me to
some documentation ?


Otherwise, lay off the boose dude.





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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

Stephen Harding
October 20th 03, 01:42 PM
IO wrote:

> How about "lend lease" convoys to Murmansk during the war. They fistly armed
> Hitler and after Stalin to destroy Europe... USA is the worst enemy of
> Europe...

Hamburg, Germany, a favorite stopover port of US merchant mariners taking
ships loaded with Lend-Lease war material for the USSR to Murmansk.

While there, they could warm up, buy extra cold weather gear, and have a
few brauts and beer provided by friendly merchants of the city, before
continuing northward on their war supply missions.

After the war, the US refused to take "no" for an answer from Stalin, in
regards to Marshall Plan reconstruction aid, and instead *forced* military
supplies into Russian ports against the will of the government, with the
hope that a Cold War would rage for the next century, making Europe dependent
on US largess.

The plan almost worked! If only the Cold War could have lasted a few more
decades. We could have been the masters of Europe!


SMH

Michael Petukhov
October 20th 03, 09:23 PM
"IO" > wrote in message >...
> How about "lend lease" convoys to Murmansk during the war. They fistly armed
> Hitler and after Stalin to destroy Europe... USA is the worst enemy of
> Europe...

Close, very close to reality. Let's them kill each other for the sake
of US. Right!!!

Michael

B2431
October 20th 03, 10:17 PM
>From: Stephen Harding

<snip>

>After the war, the US refused to take "no" for an answer from Stalin, in
>regards to Marshall Plan reconstruction aid, and instead *forced* military
>supplies into Russian ports against the will of the government, with the
>hope that a Cold War would rage for the next century, making Europe dependent
>on US largess.

The Marshall Plan was for the civil reconstruction of West Germany. Stalin was
already considered an enemy by that time, why on Earth would the United States
"force" military supplies on the Soviets other than a few items already agreed
upon during the war?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Keith Willshaw
October 20th 03, 11:58 PM
"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: Stephen Harding
>
> <snip>
>
> >After the war, the US refused to take "no" for an answer from Stalin, in
> >regards to Marshall Plan reconstruction aid, and instead *forced*
military
> >supplies into Russian ports against the will of the government, with the
> >hope that a Cold War would rage for the next century, making Europe
dependent
> >on US largess.
>
> The Marshall Plan was for the civil reconstruction of West Germany. Stalin
was
> already considered an enemy by that time, why on Earth would the United
States
> "force" military supplies on the Soviets other than a few items already
agreed
> upon during the war?
>
> Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired
>

Your irony detector seems to have failed.

Keith

Stephen Harding
October 21st 03, 06:32 AM
John Mullen wrote:

> "B2431" > wrote in message
>
> > >From: Stephen Harding
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >After the war, the US refused to take "no" for an answer from Stalin, in
> > >regards to Marshall Plan reconstruction aid, and instead *forced* military
> > >supplies into Russian ports against the will of the government, with the
> > >hope that a Cold War would rage for the next century, making Europe dependent
> > >on US largess.
> >
> > The Marshall Plan was for the civil reconstruction of West Germany. Stalin was
> > already considered an enemy by that time, why on Earth would the United States
> > "force" military supplies on the Soviets other than a few items already agreed
> > upon during the war?
>
> I think Stephen is having a joke, and rather a good one at that.
>
> So hard to convey humour on this medium, isn't it?

I ran out of smileys quite some time ago and have never replenished.


SMH

B2431
October 21st 03, 06:58 AM
>I ran out of smileys quite some time ago and have never replenished.
>
>
>SMH
>

Ok, just park me in a corner and increase my medications. I didn't catch that.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Stephen Harding
October 21st 03, 07:19 AM
B2431 wrote:

> >I ran out of smileys quite some time ago and have never replenished.
>
> Ok, just park me in a corner and increase my medications. I didn't catch that.

Hmmm, "park". You know Dan, that reminds me.

Were you aware of the "Parkas for Oil" component of Lend-Lease?

It allowed the US to provide oil to Nazi Germany in exchange for parkas for
the Murmansk run.

Now this extremely important component of the war effort was responsible for...

Hey, found one! But this is really the last! ;^)


SMH

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