I hope the FAA has a very fat wallet

I hope the FAA has a very fat wallet

LEXINGTON, Ky. - The lone air traffic controller on duty the
morning Comair Flight 5191 crashed cleared the jet for
takeoff, then turned his back to do some "administrative
duties" as the aircraft veered down the wrong runway, a
federal investigator said Tuesday. Separately, the
Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged violating its
own policies when it assigned only one controller to the
Lexington tower.

But hey people don't worry! The FAA has plenty of Gay and
Black Female controllers and they spend tons of money on
Diversity and "Kissing the black ass"

It's all going to be OK

-----Original Message-----
From: FUBAR [mailto
....

Isn't it interesting that when someone takes this cretin to task for his
ineloquence and bigotry that he pens a new moniker? We might even begin
to feel pity at his obvious lack of social skills as time passes.

Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: FUBAR [mailto

...

Isn't it interesting that when someone takes this cretin to task for his
ineloquence and bigotry that he pens a new moniker? We might even begin
to feel pity at his obvious lack of social skills as time passes.


He is a repressed gay.

Sam Spade wrote:
Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: FUBAR [mailto


...

Isn't it interesting that when someone takes this cretin to task for his
ineloquence and bigotry that he pens a new moniker? We might even begin
to feel pity at his obvious lack of social skills as time passes.


He is a repressed gay.


I may be a troll but I also fly a lot. Yes the pilot should
have checked heading before rolling for takeoff.

But, as the previous gentleman stated, the FAA has deep
pockets and will pay for this because they violated their
own orders on ATCT staffing that night. Also, during the
takeoff roll the lone controller rather than observing the
active field turned around to fill out "administrative
paperwork"

If the controller staffing had been according to FAA
orders(2 controllers), maybe the second controller would
have been keeping an eye on the active field(That's what
controllers do) and the other is filling out some worthless
Government paperwork? Controller screams abort on departure
frequency and maybe an aborted and embarrassed takeoff is
the only result.

In any case, there was 49 deaths with some quasi-VIP people
on board. The FAA will be paying out millions. ALL a lawyer
needs is one hook. The FAA violated their own orders. There
is your hook. Why was the controller staffing short?

The answer is NOT politically correct but here goes. More
money is spent on Diversity programs and social engineering
and "Kissing the black ass" in the "New" FAA than controller
staffing in low use towers.

The FAA has gradually changed(started during Clinton) from
an aviation safety organization to a Government job program
for minorities and welfare to work. Most FAA jobs are filled
now by anything other than a QUALIFIED WHITE MALE.

You don't believe me? Ask around. You will find out.

In the end, controller staffing and **** poor FAA management
and misplaced job and social priorities within our Federal
Government "contributed" to the disaster in Kentucky.

The Emperor(FAA and Government) has no clothes. Write your
representative and demand that the FAA should implement a
"NUMBERED" job bid system and to stop their outdated social
engineering cluster **** before more innocent people are
killed. The morale is in the toilet with the controller and
technician workforce due to a terrible and insulting union
contract. I don't belong to a union but you don't treat the
controllers and technicians like **** in the FAA and expect
a top notch workforce. In addition, all jobs in the FAA
should go to the best and brightest. Not some big ass black
female who was a secretary 2 years ago but attended a
"leadership course"

Now the focus in the FAA is Female and Gay social groups and
accountability boards and Diversity. Bull dikes run the FAA
and it's getting out of control. Look around at the
"Spokespersons" or the "Managers" now in the FAA. Not very
many "White Heterosexual experienced males"

The Feminization and Coloring of our Federal workforce is in
full swing. We are paying the price. Katrina? Guvment
cluster ****. Also, 9/11 deep down was due to unqualified
minorities and women in the FAA and FBI ****ING up.

"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"

This has nothing to do with "ifr". Please take it to some other
newsgroup. Thanks.


FUBAR wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:
Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: FUBAR [mailto

...

Isn't it interesting that when someone takes this cretin to task for his
ineloquence and bigotry that he pens a new moniker? We might even begin
to feel pity at his obvious lack of social skills as time passes.


He is a repressed gay.


I may be a troll but I also fly a lot. Yes the pilot should have checked
heading before rolling for takeoff.

But, as the previous gentleman stated, the FAA has deep pockets and will
pay for this because they violated their own orders on ATCT staffing
that night. Also, during the takeoff roll the lone controller rather
than observing the active field turned around to fill out
"administrative paperwork"

If the controller staffing had been according to FAA orders(2
controllers), maybe the second controller would have been keeping an eye
on the active field(That's what controllers do) and the other is filling
out some worthless Government paperwork? Controller screams abort on
departure frequency and maybe an aborted and embarrassed takeoff is the
only result.

In any case, there was 49 deaths with some quasi-VIP people on board.
The FAA will be paying out millions. ALL a lawyer needs is one hook. The
FAA violated their own orders. There is your hook. Why was the
controller staffing short?

The answer is NOT politically correct but here goes. More money is spent
on Diversity programs and social engineering and "Kissing the black ass"
in the "New" FAA than controller staffing in low use towers.

The FAA has gradually changed(started during Clinton) from an aviation
safety organization to a Government job program for minorities and
welfare to work. Most FAA jobs are filled now by anything other than a
QUALIFIED WHITE MALE.

You don't believe me? Ask around. You will find out.

In the end, controller staffing and **** poor FAA management and
misplaced job and social priorities within our Federal Government
"contributed" to the disaster in Kentucky.

The Emperor(FAA and Government) has no clothes. Write your
representative and demand that the FAA should implement a "NUMBERED" job
bid system and to stop their outdated social engineering cluster ****
before more innocent people are killed. The morale is in the toilet with
the controller and technician workforce due to a terrible and insulting
union contract. I don't belong to a union but you don't treat the
controllers and technicians like **** in the FAA and expect a top notch
workforce. In addition, all jobs in the FAA should go to the best and
brightest. Not some big ass black female who was a secretary 2 years ago
but attended a "leadership course"

Now the focus in the FAA is Female and Gay social groups and
accountability boards and Diversity. Bull dikes run the FAA and it's
getting out of control. Look around at the "Spokespersons" or the
"Managers" now in the FAA. Not very many "White Heterosexual experienced
males"

The Feminization and Coloring of our Federal workforce is in full swing.
We are paying the price. Katrina? Guvment cluster ****. Also, 9/11 deep
down was due to unqualified minorities and women in the FAA and FBI
****ING up.

"Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners"

"FUBAR" wrote in message
.. .

If the controller staffing had been according to FAA orders(2
controllers), maybe the second controller would have been keeping an eye
on the active field(That's what controllers do) and the other is filling
out some worthless Government paperwork? Controller screams abort on
departure frequency and maybe an aborted and embarrassed takeoff is the
only result.


Maybe. Maybe a second controller wouldn't have noticed anything amiss.
After, two well-qualified, experienced professional pilots didn't catch the
error.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"FUBAR" wrote in message
. ..

If the controller staffing had been according to FAA orders(2
controllers), maybe the second controller would have been keeping an eye
on the active field(That's what controllers do) and the other is filling
out some worthless Government paperwork? Controller screams abort on
departure frequency and maybe an aborted and embarrassed takeoff is the
only result.


Maybe. Maybe a second controller wouldn't have noticed anything amiss.
After, two well-qualified, experienced professional pilots didn't catch the
error.

I read a report that the FAA also questioned the utility of two
controllers in preventing this accident. Of course that could be
driven by legal issues but ultimately the pilots were responsible
(hence pilot in command).

Ron Lee

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"FUBAR" wrote in message
.. .

If the controller staffing had been according to FAA orders(2
controllers), maybe the second controller would have been keeping an eye
on the active field(That's what controllers do) and the other is filling
out some worthless Government paperwork? Controller screams abort on
departure frequency and maybe an aborted and embarrassed takeoff is the
only result.



Maybe. Maybe a second controller wouldn't have noticed anything amiss.
After, two well-qualified, experienced professional pilots didn't catch the
error.



It's all about math and odds. IF? just one more controller
had been on duty the "Number" may not have come up. Sure
both pilots screwed up. The odds two controllers and two
pilots would have screwed up or been looking the other way
is much less than 2 pilots and 1 controller.

The "odds" are with two controllers in the cab 49 people
would still be alive today.

But the FAA(Tombstone agency)loves playing the odds
and building Diversity and "Civil Rights" staff empires on
the backs of reduced controller staffing, reduced technician
staffing, reduced overtime and a ****ed off badly managed
work force.

This time they lost

But "Weez gotz Diversity in the FAA" who cares about aviation???

"FUBAR" wrote in message
.. .

It's all about math and odds. IF? just one more controller had been on
duty the "Number" may not have come up. Sure both pilots screwed up. The
odds two controllers and two pilots would have screwed up or been looking
the other way is much less than 2 pilots and 1 controller.

The "odds" are with two controllers in the cab 49 people would still be
alive today.


How did you make that determination?

For this accident to occur two pilots had to make several identical errors,
there's no evidence the controller made any error at all.



But the FAA(Tombstone agency)loves playing the odds
and building Diversity and "Civil Rights" staff empires on the backs of
reduced controller staffing, reduced technician staffing, reduced overtime
and a ****ed off badly managed work force.

This time they lost


Was staffing reduced? What level of staffing is needed at LEX on an early
weekend morning?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"FUBAR" wrote in message
.. .

It's all about math and odds. IF? just one more controller had been on
duty the "Number" may not have come up. Sure both pilots screwed up. The
odds two controllers and two pilots would have screwed up or been looking
the other way is much less than 2 pilots and 1 controller.

The "odds" are with two controllers in the cab 49 people would still be
alive today.



How did you make that determination?

For this accident to occur two pilots had to make several identical errors,
there's no evidence the controller made any error at all.



But the FAA(Tombstone agency)loves playing the odds
and building Diversity and "Civil Rights" staff empires on the backs of
reduced controller staffing, reduced technician staffing, reduced overtime
and a ****ed off badly managed work force.

This time they lost



Was staffing reduced? What level of staffing is needed at LEX on an early
weekend morning?



Did you see the original post? The FAA order REQUIRES 2
controllers. I have been in ATCT cabs hundreds of times. I
have never seen ALL the controllers with an aircraft active
with their backs to the runway.

The "Administrative" duty the controller turned to do could
have waited. With 2 controllers, the odds are way less 4
eyeballs would have been off the active that long.

I stand by my opinion. IF? the FAA HAD FOLLOWED THEIR OWN
ORDERS THAT REQUIRED 2 controllers people would be alive
today. Why write or publish an official order if you are
going to VIOLATE it???

Unless you are incompetent, poorly trained or don't give a
****??