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![]() A couple of weekends ago I was at Half Moon Bay Airport (KHAF) a non-towered field near San Francisco, CA. It was a beautiful, sunny, Sunday afternoon, so that traffic pattern was full. I made calls in each leg of the pattern, except base and final, because I could not get a word in edgewise. Mostly, this was due to some people greeting each other, talking about the airport restaurant and generally getting chatty on frequency. As I was on short final, about 20 feet above the runway, some idiot announces his intention to take off, and rolls onto the runway and guns it. I had to abort my landing. Honestly, I don't think he ever saw me, even after I when I sidestepped the runway and we were both in the air together, parallel. I was incredibly annoyed, but because I saw the whole thing happen and was able to react, I was didn't think of my life having been in danger. I mostly just cursed the lousy airmanship all around the airport that day. [ NOTE: just because you don't hear a radio call does not mean you are free to not look for aircraft in the pattern. Hell, calls get stepped on, and radios aren't even required at an airport like HAF. ] Later, though, I started thinking about how this might have played out if I had been on an instrument approach. Say I was on an ILS (HAF has none, but pretend) at minimums, and I had to abort the landing after the MAP. The weather is way below circling, so I need to get back up again. It's too late to fly the missed. What can I safely do? The only thing that comes to mind is to fly a departure procedure like an ODP. Is that the correct procedure? I'm embarassed that this wasn't covered in my instrument training, or that I have forgotten it. It certainly seems that if you are going to fly an approach into an airport that has an DP, it behooves you to have it out in case you have to abort after having descended below/past the DH/MAP. What is the correct way to deal with this scenario? -- dave j -- jacobowitz73 --at-- yahoo --dot-- com |
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Later, though, I started thinking about how this might have played out if I had been on an instrument approach. Say I was on an ILS (HAF has none, but pretend) at minimums, and I had to abort the landing after the MAP. The weather is way below circling, so I need to get back up again. It's too late to fly the missed. What can I safely do? The only thing that comes to mind is to fly a departure procedure like an ODP. If conditions were that low, no VFR aircraft would be taking off, and no IFR aircraft would be released until you landed or canceled IFR. -- Peter |
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You fly the published or assigned missed approach. As long as you had sight of the runway and legally descended below DH/past the MAP the missed approach still applies. This is not as unusual a case as you might think, besides a runway incursion you can also lose sight of the runway/approach lights after having seen them and descended below the DH or you can lose sight of the runway while flying a circling approach. - Ray After looking at the AIM I found that I was wrong and the original poster was correct - the AIM recommends flying the departure procedu AIM 5-4-21(g) "Missed approach obstacle clearance is predicated on beginning the missed approach procedure at the MAP from MDA or DA and then climbing 200 feet/NM or greater. Initiating a go-around after passing the published MAP may result in total loss of obstacle clearance. To compensate for the possibility of reduced obstacle clearance during a go-around, a pilot should apply procedures used in takeoff planning. Pilots should refer to airport obstacle and departure data prior to initiating an instrument approach procedure." Learn something new every day... - Ray |
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![]() Ah, that makes sense! However, let's say it was a snowplow or a deer, or a mechanical problem with the landing gear (that's far fetched since the gear goes down sooner -- or at least it does when I'm flying ![]() There still seems to be an issue. -- dave j Peter R. wrote: If conditions were that low, no VFR aircraft would be taking off, and no IFR aircraft would be released until you landed or canceled IFR. |
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![]() Ray, Thanks for finding the pertinent section of the AIM for us. I'm glad I asked! I don't have too many actual hours under my belt, but I've never self-briefed a DP before an approach. Next time, I will -- at a minimum to find out if there are any interesting objects I need to be aware of in the departure path. -- dave j Ray wrote: After looking at the AIM I found that I was wrong and the original poster was correct - the AIM recommends flying the departure procedu AIM 5-4-21(g) "Missed approach obstacle clearance is predicated on beginning the missed approach procedure at the MAP from MDA or DA and then climbing 200 feet/NM or greater. Initiating a go-around after passing the published MAP may result in total loss of obstacle clearance. To compensate for the possibility of reduced obstacle clearance during a go-around, a pilot should apply procedures used in takeoff planning. Pilots should refer to airport obstacle and departure data prior to initiating an instrument approach procedure." Learn something new every day... - Ray |
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Bottom line. You do what is safest.
Some airports (Aspen is one), pilots use a "balked landing" procedure for a missed below the MAP. At Aspen it is signifigantly different than the missed due to terrain. (It is a climbing left hand turn and the missed is a right hand turn). This requires the airline working out the procedure. As a private pilot, if I had to do a balked landing at Aspen, I definitely would NOT make the right hand turn back to the MAP!! You would run into a mountain. Things like this is why IMC approaches at small mountain airports are bit dicey. So it all depends. I agree a balked landing and a missed are different procedures. Also, I have landed on taxiways before, so that MIGHT be an option. MIGHT... |
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"Doug" wrote in message ps.com...
Bottom line. You do what is safest. Some airports (Aspen is one), pilots use a "balked landing" procedure for a missed below the MAP. At Aspen it is signifigantly different than the missed due to terrain. (It is a climbing left hand turn and the missed is a right hand turn). This requires the airline working out the procedure. As a private pilot, if I had to do a balked landing at Aspen, I definitely would NOT make the right hand turn back to the MAP!! You would run into a mountain. Things like this is why IMC approaches at small mountain airports are bit dicey. So it all depends. I agree a balked landing and a missed are different procedures. Also, I have landed on taxiways before, so that MIGHT be an option. MIGHT... Not at Aspen, though. :-) |
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Fly the published missed approach procedure, that is what it is for.
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