ANOTHER airspace incursion in D.C.?

They will soon. There is item on Avweb that the TSA Fed heads are pushing
for mandatory criminal sentencing for incursions.

--
Roger Long

"Roger Long" om wrote in message
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They will soon. There is item on Avweb that the TSA Fed heads are pushing
for mandatory criminal sentencing for incursions.

Violation of the FAR's is not a crime however (at least not federally). They're going
to need some legislation to back that up.

Actually, every violation is being pursued. It's even worse than the typical FAA
stance (typically, the FAA believes that no investigation is successful unless it
results in an enforcement action, the fact that the accused may be innocent is
deemed as a failure).

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:54:56 GMT, "Roger Long"
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There is item on Avweb that the TSA Fed heads are pushing
for mandatory criminal sentencing for incursions.

How will that enhance security?

Larry Dighera wrote:

There is item on Avweb that the TSA Fed heads are pushing
for mandatory criminal sentencing for incursions.

How will that enhance security?

More work for TSA staffers.

You mean job security, right?

- Andrew

There is item on Avweb that the TSA Fed heads are pushing
for mandatory criminal sentencing for incursions.

How will that enhance security?

This issue isn't about security -- the concept of an ADIZ providing security
is complete crap.

But face it, ladies and gentlemen -- the ADIZ is there. We can all see it on
the map. It's not like a pop-up TFR, that comes and goes like the wind.

The Feds are going to lose patience with these incursions, bet on it. And
then we'll all be screwed.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:8Scsb.172340$HS4.1397531@attbi_s01...

But face it, ladies and gentlemen -- the ADIZ is there. We can all see it on
the map.

What map is that, Jay? There is no published map with the ADIZ on it.

It's not like a pop-up TFR, that comes and goes like the wind.

It came like the wind. The New York one disappeared with the wind (causing
some FAA employees in the NY area to think the DC one went away when we
went back to code yellow.

The Feds are going to lose patience with these incursions, bet on it. And
then we'll all be screwed.

We're already screwed Jay.

What map is that, Jay? There is no published map with the ADIZ on it.

Here's three, to start with. Found 'em in about three clicks.

http://www.nafcflying.org/DCADIZ.htm

http://www.aeroplanner.com/notams/DCADIZ.cfm

http://www.fortmeadeflyingactivity.o...pif_03-02.html

The Feds are going to lose patience with these incursions, bet on it.
And
then we'll all be screwed.

We're already screwed Jay.

Not me. But I will be, if doofuses like the Mooney driver keeps screwing
the pooch.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article IOdsb.174151$Tr4.466973@attbi_s03, Jay Honeck
wrote:

What map is that, Jay? There is no published map with the ADIZ on it.

Here's three, to start with. Found 'em in about three clicks.

http://www.nafcflying.org/DCADIZ.htm

http://www.aeroplanner.com/notams/DCADIZ.cfm

http://www.fortmeadeflyingactivity.o...pif_03-02.html

The Feds are going to lose patience with these incursions, bet on it.
And
then we'll all be screwed.

We're already screwed Jay.

But it is nowhere to be found on an official, for navigational use,
government printed and distributed chart. That is the arguement. Charts
are printed every six months, why can it not be included?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:IOdsb.174151$Tr4.466973@attbi_s03...
What map is that, Jay? There is no published map with the ADIZ on it.

Here's three, to start with. Found 'em in about three clicks.

None of those are published.
None are provided by the FAA.
It's rediculous that the standard sectionals/TAC's do not depict this
airspace which they claim is so danged important to the security of
the country.

We're already screwed Jay.

Not me. But I will be, if doofuses like the Mooney driver keeps screwing
the pooch.

Try coming to DC.